It is reported that Paul Johnson, the US citizen kidnapped in Saudi Arabia, has been shown on video. He appears blindfolded, giving his name. The video has been shown on CNN apparently.
Update: Indeed it has. It appears now that demands have been made:
A masked man armed with an automatic weapon also spoke on the video, identifying himself as Abdul Aziz al-Muqrin, the self-proclaimed military leader of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia. His identity has not been independently verified.
The masked man, speaking on behalf of a group called the Falluja Squadron that claims to have ties to al Qaeda, demanded that Saudi Arabia free al Qaeda prisoners it was holding and that Westerners leave the Arabian Peninsula. If the demands aren’t met within 72 hours, Johnson will be killed, the militant said.
The gunman also claimed that at the time of Johnson’s kidnapping, one of the American’s colleagues was killed. On Saturday, when Johnson went missing in Riyadh, another American, Kenneth Scroggs, was found slain.
Update: It appears Paul Johnson has been beheaded. CNN are saying that three photographs appear on an Islamist website depicting Johnson’s decapitated corpse.
Update: The pictures are available here. I urge extreme caution in viewing these images. They are extremely graphic. There are three pictures. And a picture of the website itself.
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168 responses to “Islamist website shows Paul Johnson”
what do we have to do to get everyone to stop fighting. our people are getting killed b/c our government messed up somewhere. why must the alquedas go after us when we werent the ones at fault. our army is at fault. leave the innocent alone. im sorry they hurt your people but why lower yourselves to their level. that makes them just as bad as the government. boy am i glad for free speech.
I’m developing a healthy hate of these islamists, just like they hate us. I’m starting to think of all of these third world middle easterners as a bunch of murderers who should be eradicated like the vermin the are.
No excuse for what happened .. but please do think of how many Muslims where killed by these Apache helicopters developed by people like Paul ! These people where wrong at killing Paul, but just like Bush was wrong at killing 15 thousands Iraqis for the sake of Iraqi oil.
Our army is not at fault. This is not all islamists.
American policy around the world has caused this. We make policy decisions without clear communication. American government has made decisions that lean heavily away from Islamist support and towards Israeli support. Do some searching for yourself. There are some articles as to “why they hate us”. Some of it is pretty good reasoning. This is the ONLY way they have to strike back. I don’t condone it I only say that we should leave now so less people are at risk.
they are all a bunch of cowards we are not there for the oil we dont need the oil, no one seems to understand were there to help and make iraqis lives better, im so sick of hearing were there for oil, maybe we should just left saddam in his place.
I detest and abhor these evil demons guised in human form for their wicked and disgusting acts. Until such time as I see the muslim community as a whole distancing themselves from these vile individulas I will distance myself from ALL muslims. God, let peace come to those victims and their families of this wanton Muslim violence. May those vile Muslims rot in hell.
There are murderers on all sides.
Angela, you say you’re “glad for free speech.” What do you think we’re over there for? Under Saddam and his goons, not a single person would have been able to say what you just did without being killed themselves. And if we had gone into Afghanistan when we should have, there wouldn’t be a whole lot of these extremists left. It’s not all Muslims, just the militant ones, just like you run into vehement bible-thumpers. They hate us because we’re free and we strive to make everybody else free. It’s not about oil. That’s just what the liberal media wants you to think. It’s about liberating oppressed people that want to be heard. The losers that are murdering our citizens are cowards who won’t show their faces when killing an unarmed man. How brave is that?
What rock do all of you live under? American Policy caused what? Mr. Johnson and Nicholas Berg to be beheaded? Are you kidding? If you believe this than pack your shi@ and get out of the United States of America, you do not belong here!
President Bush and this great country of ours needs to unleash the full throttle of our military on all Muslim extremists! Kill them all and I mean them all. The problem with the extremists is they are all cowards that hide under masks. If they truly believe in dying for their cause then I say take off your mask and let the United States military slaughter them!
Proud to be a New Yorker
Blessed to be an American
i think the us needs to give full authority to the men and women in uniform to search and destroy all the cowards in these messed up countries,not stand by and let these terriorist get by with this kind of tyrianny.
Angela where the hell have you been?? This was NOT caused by American policy..or the Bush admin……If you believe that….then you must think 911 was our fault also….you must be one of those Islamic freaks….I hope you are not in America Because you sure as hell dont deserve to live in our blessed country
No excuse whatsoever. I do believe that the acts of those people do not reflect on how all Arabs are, however.
I agree with you donnel…I dont judge all arabs by this group of cowards
There is never an excuse to treat a fellow human with such cruelty. That applies to terrorists as well as to murderers in our own country (USA)… BUT… you must understand that we got ourselves into this situation. We created Israel, we turned our back on Arab allies, we have practiced inconsistent foreign policy (dem & republican), etc, etc. Just look at the Israel situation… imagine if Spain came back and took over Florida… put everyone in a “refugee” camps… then England gave them billions of dollars of aide every year… think England would be popular?? The Arab population of an entire country (Palestine) has been in refugee camps since the 1940’s…. they can’t own anything… have no control over anything… barely make a living… live in dirty, poor, shitty conditions… their brotherssistersunclesetc live in all the other Arab countries… they hate us for what we have done! Oh well… i have no solution but I wish Americans would confront the real root cause of their hate… Israel.
Amen to you Laura!!! Angela – You need to pull your head out of your a$$!!!! It’s only because of our military that you have the right to your free speech. Isn’t it great? To say our military is at fault only goes to show your ignorance. What does the US military have to do with the beheading of innocent people??? Don’t give me the standard liberal answer that if we weren’t in Iraq, the terrorist wouldn’t be targeting us. Have you forgot about 9-11? What about Kobar Towers? What about the USS Cole? And I could go on and point out other incidents that not only targeted US interests but also those against other government and countries.
I live in Saudi Arabia, have have not had a problem with the quality of life here until just recently. We (the americans and british here) live on a pretty secure compound and have never had a problem in this area. That’s not to say that nothing will ever happen, but I don’t think that people can comment on something they’ll never experience. And it is an experience living over here. Most all of the Saudi’s that we have come in contact with are as decent as most all other people. It is the few that ruin it for the many, just like in the states.
Laura,
Going “full throttle” will help Osama by creating waves of Islamic terrorist recruits. We get the best results when we work quietly and surgically.
I wish all the “kill em all – full thottle” supporters would join the damn military and do it. I know my buddy in the national guard who has to stay there longer than he should would trade places with you. Just like Micheal Moore asking elected officials to sign their kids up to go and fight in Iraq. They look at him with a WTF look on their faces….
Laura,
Going “full throttle” will help Osama by creating waves of Islamic terrorist recruits. We get the best results when we work quietly and surgically.
I wish all the “kill em all – full thottle” supporters would join the damn military and do it. I know my buddy in the national guard who has to stay there longer than he should would trade places with you. Just like Micheal Moore asking elected officials to sign their kids up to go and fight in Iraq. They look at him with a WTF look on their faces….
Blake, when you say until you see the “muslim community as a whole distancing themselves from these vile individuals I will distance myself from ALL muslims,” you are carrying out the wishes OF those vile individuals. That is EXACTLY what those vile individuals want. Because THEY will see that as FEAR. Which is EXACTLY why we should engage even MORE with the moderate Muslims who — even if they don’t distance themselves from the bastards among them — are the ones who will wind up being more willing to listen to our point of view (and from whom we can learn).
How many muslims kill in this world every day any one know this ( NO ) Thare are many places is this world like Palistine Iraq Afghnistan Kashmir Charchnia Somalia Etc whare every day many muslims killed by the christans hindus jewish etc please make a any remarks making against islam or muslims remember them.
I sereously condam what happend today in Riyadh.
I think that the U.S.A. should bomb Saudi Arabia
killing all childern, women and men because children are just going to grow up to be terrorist just like their family. There’s nothing wrong with bombing the country we did it to China why not Saudi Arabia there just becoming our worst hated enemy in the U.S.
Gung Ho,
Do NOT put me in the same league as Michael Moore. That fat blow hard should pack his crap and move to France.
As for me going into the military, that is not an option. I will tell you that my family is actively serving and I am the great, great, great granddaughter of one of the few double medal winners of The Congressional Medal of Honor. So please take your full throttle comment and shove it!
I feel for your friend and I know first hand the sacrifices that this man and his family are making. On the flip side my husband worked downtown on September 11, 2001 in the old Woolworth building. So again please don’t purport to tell me about full throttle. My son who is ten had to comfort his best friend who lost his father in the World Trade Center. My family attended quite a few funerals here. What about you? Maybe too busy playing Xbox or Playstation?
I stand by what I said. We will not be safe until we (The United States of America) rid the world of all the extremists.
Laura
It’s time to go to work. The US must destroy any and all terrorists and their goons. We must make an honest effort not to hurt any of the innocent, but if we do, we do. The only way to build something up is to knock it down and start over and that is what we must do the the middle east.
i think we should just destroy the whole dang place over there and be rid of all of the terrorist. this is unreal and we are losing good fine upstanding AMERICAN for what? we need to bring our boys/girls home and bomb that country until it is GONE completly.
Savages! Animals! I have no more compassion for these people. I sense the American public is getting a belly full of these animals cutting off heads. I for one am at the point where I no longer care what happens to the people of the middle-east. Once I cared, but images like these beheadings is filling me with a great amount of hate directed at these nuts. After this, I don’t want to hear any of them complaining because one of our bombs fell where it should not have and killed innocents. Save your crying, whatever happens to you at the hands of our military is your problem now.
Brava for you Laura, and I agree with you about the nonsensical comments of gung ho. Had he taken the time to read your original post, then he would know that even if we all signed up tomorrow, and all politicians had their kids sign up, it wouldn’t change the policy which has our men and women over there tipping on egg shells, being accused of “torture” because they take naked pictures of prisoners while folks are BEHEADED. You want to talk about trading places gung ho, I’m sure Berg and Johnson would gladly have naked pictures taken of them with bags over their heads instead of having no heads.
Laura, I worked in One World Trade Center. I was there that day, and still have nightmares. So I get it. What folks like Egyptian don’t get is that you can’t compare letting free market companies sell war planes to a country because you don’t like them to crashing commercial jetliners into commercial buildings. For those of you who say this is America’s fault, leave if you hate it here so much. Go to the great nation of Pakistan (for the record, America originally supported the Pakistanis against Isreal because of their Christian ties, and America DID NOT create Isreal, Europe did because no one, not “peace-loving” France, not Nazi Germany, no one wanted Jews in their country.
God bless America, and I pray that Mr. Johnson’s spirit is resting, and that these “peaceful” muslim savages (who, by the way, are over in Iraq blowing up and slaughtering their own kind, so please tell me how that has anything to do with American foreign policy) get what is coming to them!
Every day that you kill one of our men, women, and children, the closer you get to a result you do not wish for. The American people will give the benefit of the doubt for only so long.
There is no justification for this sort of killing. The men that did this are murderers.
You never hear a Christian killing in the name of his or her religion. We gave that up a thousand years ago. What in God’s name is going on in the Muslim world?
You never hear the Pope or some preacher talking about a holy war. Yet, you’ve got Imams running around talking about homicide. I have yet to see that Islam is a religion that strives for peace. If it is, where are the people with the guts to stop these thugs?
Correction!!!
United States is not America… America is a continent…
Michael Moore is completely right!!! Bush is a piece of shit… He’s the responsible for this… This monkey jerk (Bush) only cares the oil, the money… Leave that bastards (muslims) alone… Let them kill each other (by themself)!!!
Further correction: Calling our country America is short for United States of America, as I’m sure most people already knew (such as saying “Elvis” clearly refers to “Elvis Presley”). Further, muslim terrorists and savages were around and killing Americans long before George Bush, and they will be here long after. However, while everyone is quick to condemn the Bush administrations efforts against terrorism, please tell me one terrorist attack that has taken place on American soil since 9/11. He kept this country from becoming another Israel, and should be commended!
Does anyone really think that “W” really cares about ridding the world of dictators? or that he really cares about U.S. citizens abroad getting killed? haha.
If the government really felt secure about our control over Iraq, would Rumsfeld & Bush have flown into the country in COMPLETE secrecy?
This “war” is a complete joke. No WMD’s, no Saddam/Al queda link, no victory. Just “W” putting up a smoke screen because he knew the 9-11 honeymoon wouldn’t last long enough.
I’ll tell you, Kerry is no better, but if you want to talk about complete idiots, “W” may very well be the most ignorant president we’ve ever had.
He sure is sly though, pushing through gigantic tax cuts for the wealthy, and corporate tax cuts just as large. Hell, the people in his own administration truly believe that outsourcing is “good” for this economy.
Look around folks, remember how the U.S. was, cause from this point forward it’s all downhill.
You’ve got a president who thinks it’s ok to lose jobs for 3 years, and when the economy finally does kick into gear and creates them, he thinks it’s wonderful that the jobs are at a lower pay rate. The sad part is, he has a chance to get reelected.
It’s called a smokescreen. I just hope enough “Americans” see through it.
E Pluribus Unum
Hey Oh so tired, tell me who’s administration hosted the largest terrorist attack in this country’s history?
Who’s National Security Advisor (Conde Rice) said “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon…” US Intelligence officials informed the white house weeks before the attack that Al queda might hijack planes…What did she think they were going to do with them? Fly around and make jet trails in the sky???
The only reason we aren’t another Israel is because we are bordered by Mexico and Canada, if we had to depend on “W” defending the borders, we’d really be screwed, the apple fell way too far from the tree for “W” to fight anything more than a whiskey bottle.
Hey Tim, who’s administration would have been called racist and unconstitutional had they stopped these men before acting? And sure, Tim, you’re right, it was common knowledge that terrorists would hijack planes and crash them into buildings as opposed to land them somewhere and make demands as they’d done in the past. THe folks on the three airlines that hit the WTC and the Pentagon just wanted to die. Shmuck!
Oh, and you’re right, Mexico and Canada, which let all the terrorists in, are defending our borders. Read a book!
Oh So Tired
FYI: Bush’s famuly & Bin Laden’s family are great friend and have the same economic interests… Bush invented all this shit to make a lot of money… There are a lot of interests in this “war”… For example: the reconstruction process… Most of the companies in charged of this process are related with vice-president Richard B. Cheney business!!!
Oh so Tired,
I am sorry for what you went through on 9/11 and subsequently what you have been through. I am glad you made it to safety.
These people do not have any idea what it was like to be a New Yorker on that day. They can never know the fear of a jet engine just flying over. Or the F-15’s that would patrol this great city of ours sending people running for cover.
As for the morons (Bush bashers) they are just a waste and I won’t be baited into a debate with such ignorant people. They should all pack their bags and move to France with Michael Moore.
Laura
Dear Laura, I live in Colombia… So I know very well the terrorism… BTW: Every year (in US) die more people (around 30.000) in car accidents and no one talks about it… Laura, one question ¿Why Disney Company tried to block Michael Moore’s documental? I know the answer: For money reasons, business, dollars for Bush-Monkey campaign!!!
¿Why did US invaded IRAQ, eh? ¿to free the iraqi people, LOL? No… US invaded IRAQ to take control of the oil’s production… ¿Why US don’t invade Cuba or Somalia or North Corea to liberate people? The answer is very simple: Because they don’t have the resources that US needs to keep their economy strong!!!
Sean, thank you for pointing out that Americans should not generalize, especially if they have never travelled to the middle east. I find that many people I’m talking to are making judgements and assumptions based on what they hear on the radio and see on television. I would listen to someone like you way before I would listen to someone who claims to be fair and openminded, yet has never seen what it is like to live in another country.
Tim, I agree with much of what you posted. People need to wake up and become educated, and stop using anger at muslim extremists as an excuse to support Bush and his reasons for going to war. Of course you’re angry at what is going on. I am angry and saddened by what has been going on, but I’m going to vote for a leader who will consult the international community and rally support before he decides to wage war. America has lost so much credibility and respect throughout the world, and I hope our next leader can remedy that.
I’m proud to be an American, and my father has spent the last 27 years serving in the military, but that doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with the Bush administration and its foreign policy. I have friends in the Army who are over in Iraq, and they feel like they don’t even know what the real purpose is for them being there. How demoralizing is that? No matter whether or not I agree with us being in Iraq, I love our troops for sacrificing for us. God bless our troops, and let’s bring them home safely. And let’s bring in a president who will realize all the consequences to his actions, and be prepared to face them.
I AM SO OUTRAGED AT THE PICTURES I SEEN. MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY OF PAUL JOHNSON.. I THINK WE SHOULD GO THERE AND KILL THEM ALL.. AND BE DONE WITH THEM..AND BRING OUR MEN AND WOMEN HOME TO THERE FAMILYS, AND DO THE SAME TO THE NEXT COUNTRY THAT MESSES WITH US…
it is sad that we have a lot of military guys and gals killed every day doing their job defending our freedom, helping this less fortunate, and making their mammas and pappas proud. I just wish we could get the job done and get our fellow americans out of this danger they face every day. I am all for freeing iraq, but it seems to me iraq doesn’t want to be free. it is like knowing you need to go on a diet, but can never find the time.
Kathy, your comments (other than pouring your heart out to Paul Johnson’s family) puts you on the same level as the heartless murderers.
Tim, I agree with many of your comments and some of the other folks here.
Can’t you all see violence breeds more violence!!?? FEAR is driving many of us into self destruction. We have a choice in life. To be controlled by FEAR or LOVE. The terrorists want to kill us because they see us as ‘Satan’ and many of us are afraid and MAD, thus feel the need to ‘kill them all’. This leads to a stereotype all Muslims & Arabs as the same (as many extremists have of Americans). All Arabs are not the same people, nor are Americans. Each and every Human being is unique. I like to believe most people are good, only that bad people dominate the news. BUSH is WRONG because he chooses the path of FEAR. Bush would have had international support invading Iraq if he had half a brain. Instead, he uses fear to justify his MISTAKES. If Bush understood the sociology of the situation, he would know for every ‘martyr’ he creates, 2 or more will take his place. Never before has the U.S. had more enemies. We have Mr. Bush to thank for that. And he says America is more secure? Hmmm, in the long run I would have to disagree as creating enemies and dis’ing allies doesn’t make the Untited States of America any safer. We must learn from history, we must learn from each other. Violence breeds more violence. What worked for WWII will not work for this war. We need to be smart … unfortunately Bush is not.
In the US, we need a president who has great intelligence, compassion and RESPECT for the world community. To befriend, support and learn from the rest of the world, to make them respect NOT fear us.
Set aside FEAR and realize we are ALL brothers as human beings. We all come from the same source, regardless of what part of the world you are from, creed or religion. Look at the Big Picture People. We have a choice.
PEACE and LOVE to all!!
FUCK ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS WHO SAY WE SHOULD NOT BE THERE. I AM AN EX U.S. SOLDIER AN I STAND BEHIND THE PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE IN WHAT WE ARE DOING. FUCK CLINTON AND ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATS AND THE FUCKHEADS WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS. I WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DRIVE MY GAS GUZZELING HUMMER AND SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. I WAS IN ALBANIA AND KOSOVO AND I SAW HOW THOSE PEOPLE LIVED. WE GOT IT GOOD IN THE U.S. AND YOU JACKASSES THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE ANSWERS. “IF WE WOULD JUST LEAVE THEN THIS WOULDN’T HAPPEN” OR “what do we have to do to get everyone to stop fighting. our people are getting killed b/c our government messed up somewhere. why must the alquedas go after us when we werent the ones at fault. our army is at fault. leave the innocent alone. im sorry they hurt your people but why lower yourselves to their level. that makes them just as bad as the government. boy am i glad for free speech.” FUCK YOU ANGELA
FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA FUCK YOU ANGELA IT IS PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO FOUGHT FOR TO GIVE YOU FREE SPEECH YOU STUPID CUNT. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO MAKE THE U.S. LOOK BAD. I HOPE YOU FUCKIN DIE FOR YOUR BLOG. I EARNED THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY BY SERVING IT. YOU WERE JUST BORN HERE. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THE TROOPS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
So much hate here. But……..Everyone has a right to their opinion, that is why we live in America. I support our troops. Stand behind them 100%. W/war there will always be innocent casualties. That is just a fact. Does not make it right, wrong or easy to accept. Just as Paul Johnson’s family is learning today. I just pray that there is an end & our troops that are weary & ready to be w/their families are able to do that one day. And i pray for the families like the Johnson’s who wonder why them? I am proud to be an American.
Excuse me but are we suppose to move on? We were attacked on 9/11. Was the United States suppose to turn tail and run and hide like Bill Clinton did so many times? How many times were we or our interests attacked while Bill Clinton was in office? Lets see……This is despite the fact that the Clinton administration was provoked several times by Al-Queda before the USS Cole attack. There was the 1st WTC Bombing (1993), Somalia (1993), The Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia (1997), & the U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania (1998). Clinton was obviously too busy getting head from Monica to concern himself with all the terrorists attacks that happened on his watch.
I thank God everyday for fact that we have the greatest military in the world. These Men, Woman, Husbands, Wives, Sons and Daughters are in harms way so you can write how wonderful Kerry and Michael Moore are. Excuse me while I throw up!
I for one am glad that President Bush had the balls to say to “Enough is Enough”. Al-Queda was use to attacking the U.S. and we would always turn the other cheek. I am thankful we finally bitch smacked them right back! I stand by the fact that we need to hunt these extremists down one by one and destroy them.
As for making enemies of our allies, If you referring to Jacques Chirac, Vladimir Putin and Gerard Schroeder I say they can kiss my lily white ass. Again to quote Present Bush “You are either with us or you are against us”.
If Kerry is elected President I don’t think even God would be able to save us. It will be business as usual for the terrorists.
All you Anti Bush Zealots need to go back under the rocks that you crawled out from under.
Laura
united state should keep the company’s here not over sea’s. our milatary is the top of the line. if we would of went in hard and fought with a powerful force and put the fear of god in them. we would not have this war go this long. we don’t fight like them. we are alway pussy footing around so no one gets hurt to bad. they did’t think about that when 9/11 happen. send back their people to their own country’s. quit letting them come here and learn how to fly our plane’s. work in our country. taking jobs away from our own people. look at our college’s across the u.s.. wake up people. before we know it they will be in our white house. our government is not looking out for the united states people.they are to busy look out for other countrys. kick their asses or get out of their country and let them kill each other. sh– or get of the pot.
Well said Laura. I am sick of self-loathing liberals who think we can all just be friends. There are people who wish to kill us. When people wish to kill you, your options in dealing with them are limited. Bush chose to take the fight to the enemy.
When I look at the last four presidents, I see Clinton as the weakest by far in matters of foreign policy. George bush was in office for 9 months when September 11th went down. Clinton had years to deal with Al-Qaida. Honestly, I was a democrat & Clinton supporter prior to 9/11. I now see his presidency as a bunch of opportunities lost.
Clinton had the same power to deal with our enemies as Bush has now. He lacked the political cover of 9/11 to act, but the international community wouldn’t have given a rat’s ass if Osama Bin Laden had woken up to the sound of a hell-fire missile bearing down on him.
Really, to blame either president for 9/11 is stupid, though I’d have to say Clinton had more chances to wax Osama than Bush.
Terrorists are going to continue to try and kill us as long as we have ANY interests whatsoever in the middle east. With that in mind, for the pacifists on this board, I assume you’d rather have inflation at 10%, unemployment in the same range, Saddam Hussein murdering innocent people every year, Libya, Iran, Iraq, & Al-Qaeda free to create WMD as they please WITH THE INTENT OF KILLING ALL OF US, and an energy crisis, vs. having troops on the ground that have gotten rid of Saddam, pressured the afore mentioned country’s to abandon WMD, & that allow us to have a stable economy and energy supplies.
We have two choices. We can abandon the middle east entirely and try to make it with our own energy supplies, praying that one of the theocracies previously mentioned doesn’t eventually nuke us for jihad (aka murderous kicks). Or, We can use the power of the American military to make the world a safer place.
Before you pass judgment on what’s been said here, imagine your daily commute on foot, long unemployment lines, and a few American cities reduced to ashes and dust by some Wacko’s suitcase bomb. I say we take the fight to the enemy.
Bush will look like a hero in 20 years. I wish he could complete his sentences with a bit more precision, but I do agree with his foreign policy.
If you don’t agree with Bush, you should park your car, turn off the electricity in your home, rid your life of all things plastic, prepare yourself for subsistence living for when the economy tanks, move out of any metropolitan area that might get nuked or gassed, and send a thank you letter to Schroeder & Chirac (who did not openly support our war against Iraq because they faced elections and needed a ratings boost)for helping form your political opinion…, BECAUSE, without our armed forces in the middle east, you can kiss what you know today goodbye tomorrow.
I would give anything for a peaceful world. What has gone on in the middle east over the last 50 years is terrible. However, we either attempt to pressure the region to change, or we wait for it to change us. Which do you prefer? What horrible changes are you willing to live with?
FUCK YOU FALLUJA SQUADRON!!
FUCKERS! LAMERS! COWARDS!
EAT SHIT AND DIE!! ASSHOLES!!
first of all I would like to say HELL YEAH SHANE PREACH ON AMERICAN BROTHER I BACK YOU 100% AND FUCKIN A CYBERDUDE IM WITH YOU ON THAT FUCK THOSE LAME ASS COWARDS WHO DONE THIS SHIT. I BACK OUR ARMY 100% THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK TROOPS YOU GUYS MAKE ME PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.
SECOND OF ALL ANGELA ARE YOU FUCKIN MENTAL OR WHAT BITCH? YOU HAVE SOMETHING FUCKED UP IN THAT HEAD OF YOURS YOU CUM GUZZLING TWAT. IT SHOULD BE FUCKIN TWATS LIKE YOU OVER THERE ANGELA INSTEAD OF OUR HARD WORKING ARMY MEN. YOU WOULD NOT LAST ONE FUCKIN SECOND OVER THERE ANGELA YOU BUMPY HEADED SLUT. YOUR PROBABLY SOME RICH FUCKIN WHORE WHO LIVES WITH HER PARENTS STILL AND IS GETTING EVERYTHING BY HAND AND MOUTH GET SOME OF US HAVE TO WORK HARD LIKE OUR ARMY MEN TO GET WHAT WE GET SO ANGELA BEFORE YOU PASS JUDGEMENT ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE YOU NEED TO LOOK UNDER YOUR OWN FUCKIN DOORSTEP BITCH AND GET OFF OF YOUR FAT FUCK ASS YOU DUMB BITCH AND GET A JOB AND SUPPORT YOUR OWNSELF YOU FAT MOLE AND FUCK YOU ANGELA YOU STUPID BITCH.
~~KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SOLDIERS YOUR DOING A FINE JOB OVER THERE BE SAFE~~
There is no excuse for what those murderers did. Even there’re own people detest what they did. They just want to kill people to satisfy their own ghoolish aims.
For all those who oppose the war on terror, and th US involvement in Iraq, here’s an excersize for you…
Stand in front of someone very large and have the punch you in the face so hard they knock you to the ground.
Get up and keep repeating this until you finally figure out…
TIME TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake-up people who blame our government for what is happening(especially angela and egyptian) Do you not remember 9-11? Those bastards murdered, yes murdered, thousands of people who were not only Americans, but British, Russian, and people from many other nations. So we must continue to fight for what is right and destroy terrorism before they strike again this time using worse methods (like a nuclear bomb)
Like all sane people I was shocked and disgusted by what happened in New York 9/11,however did the American people really believe that represented the birth of terrorism? Didn’t terrorism exist when Irish American’s were providing the IRA with funds to shoot and blow up innocent men, women and children within the British Isle’s? and during the collecting of these funds didn’t the American government turn a blind eye to there collection? I do not condone what Muslim extremists are doing but if you look back in history the Arab world always seems to get the dirty end of the stick. When Britain and America went into Iraq they didn’t do it because of WMD, or for the people being tortured and killed by Saddam, they did it for what they could get out of it. The only light at the end of the tunnel is that the people of Iraq freed from a tyrant will eventually enjoy a better way of life.
I just wanted to say Derek you have a big mouth on you. If you were an x marine then you should have enough respect to not say that you wished one of your fellow americans would die. It just shows how big of a coward you are. You say you gave Angela freedom of speech BULLSHIT! My grandpa faught in the war before you were even born. If you did help thanks but you need to quit running your mouth. EVERYONE IS JUST AS PISSED OFF ABOUT THE SITUATION AS YOU ARE AND IF YOU ARE THAT MAD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. JOIN THE ARMY AGAIN. My personal opion is to just blow up the country.
I just wanted to say Derek you have a big mouth on you. If you were an x marine then you should have enough respect to not say that you wished one of your fellow americans would die. It just shows how big of a coward you are. You say you gave Angela freedom of speech BULLSHIT! My grandpa faught in the war before you were even born. If you did help thanks but you need to quit running your mouth. EVERYONE IS JUST AS PISSED OFF ABOUT THE SITUATION AS YOU ARE AND IF YOU ARE THAT MAD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. JOIN THE ARMY AGAIN. My personal oppion is to just blow up the country.
Oh yeah VOTE FOR BUSH!!!!!! If you think about it wouldn’t you rather have a president who knows what is going on and has already established relations with others than to have JOHN KERRY who is thrown into a war and not have any relations. Also I think BUSH is doing a hell of a job who was the last president to go to war? When it happened the economy went down hill but it always goes back up. Give it time respect the he was the only president to stand up for AMERICA! WOULD YOU RATHER GET ATTACKED LIKE 9/11 AND THE PRESIDENT DO NOTHING OR WOULD YOU RATHER US KICK SOME ASS JUST LIKE BUSH IS DOING? No war is nice people are going to die just remember what they did it for!!!!
Thank Good I Live In Canada! As everyone knows, Canada and America has always worked and lives together and agreed on everything till now! Canada as we all know is the most Free Country in the World and will always be to everyone who want to have the best and safest life. This is the first time most Canadians agree that the U.S. government has stepped into the line of fire with out support of the UN Nations! As some of know or don’t know is that Canada Special Forces was under cover in Iraq and had a great chance to capture Saddam with minimal or no casualties. The Special Forces were only a couple days away from the move in on Saddam , when Bush heard about this and ordered all UN workers to leave Iraq with in 24 hours! As happy triggers as Bush is, and wanted Saddam to be not took in alive, He order missile attacks on Saddam’s hours before the bombing was to take place. During the time of the 9/11 attack the Bin Laden Family was staying at the Bush’s Resident for a couple days (Weird) and the Laden Family were the only ones that were able to fly Home, while every airport in Canada and U.S. was grounded! And why is it that the Laddan Family has given the Bush Family Millions of Dollars is Cash on many Occasions? This Whole War Stinks like rotten Bush and Laden Sewer!! There is a reason why Canada and the UN Nations did not want to be part of the Bloody War. It’s because Bush like his father always wanted Control of Oil. If as some Americans say U.S. has their own Oil. then why did Bush call it Food of Oil? And why is it that your Gas Prices in the U.S. keep going up? Is it because U.S. is running short of Oil and wants more? In Canada we have our own Oil! allot of American don’t know is we sell Oil to the U.S. as well as we supply some parts of American with Hydro (electricity). This War would not of got so far out of hand if American’s had a real President with a brain and not another (Hitler) in power that wants to take over other county’s! Iraq is not a safer place it is worse now then ever and we all know why there was a Saddam! I am so sorry to say” I as well as allot of Americans believe that (Bush) has to go and new President with a brain and not a happy trigger finger must be in place to keep America safe… To many Deaths and getting nowhere!
I am from South America, not from any of the countries involved in this war. However, I have to say: Irak has never invaded the US, has never killed any american children. US has attacked, killed inocents, overtake land, destroy Iraqui cities and humilliate their people on cams only to get their oil and prove the US power.
I understand why islamic and iraquies are doing what they are doing, I can see their actions as a reponse for their rage for US attacks and land overtaking. however I dont understand US reasons for this attacks, I can only think they are just doing it for the American Ego.
i live in saudi arabia. i’m 15. im american. for those of you who live in the states and believe our military shouldn’t be in iraq, well your wrong. I’ve seen hatred towards Americans displayed in more ways than i can count. You don’t understand how these people work. Nothin draws them away from their extremist beliefs, no matter how much you try to reason with them. We pull out of iraq, and coutries alike, and all we’re gonna get is escalated terrorism. Dont blame the government, because fighting terrorism is our only option. These people dont reason with you. I’ve get in more fights here with kids that hate Americans, than anybody would ever get into in the states. I was born and raised in Saudi Arabia, and i believe we have every reason to be in Iraq kicking some a*s.
Has everybody forgotten that the U.S. is the one who gave the weapons that are being used againt us to Iraq and Afganistan. “Iran Contra Scandal”. Also does anybody remember that the U.S. helped train the people that are now cause most of these heinous acts. We need to look at how we (the U.S.) are handling the foreign policies of today for the next generation. Live from Saudi Arabia. Sean
Believe me, i love being an American, and am proud to be one too. I have lived here for just over a year now, and have realized just how spoiled most people in the states are for not having experienced living overseas and seeing how the rest of the world lives. In part I do agree with Drew, a lot of the people here are raised from birth to hate a particular group of people (usually the Jewish), but not all of them. Saudi’s are a very social people. In part that makes them very lazy and very very arrogant, but I have had people on the street come up to me and thank me for the job that I am doing. Thay have told me how happy they are that I am here to help them better themselves. The chiefs in my shop asked everyday how my wife was doing for 5 1/2 months until she got here, and after she did get here, they all asked everyday how she liked it here. They all hoped that we did, so that we would stay. I re-iterate again, “IT’S THE FEW WHO SCREW IT UP FOR THE MANY, JUST LIKE IN THE STATES”. All of the people who are saying that we need to bomb Saudi Arabia have no clue what the hell they are talking about.
SJRap
Hey man isnt it easy to blame everyone in the world for all the barbaric acts these so called jehadis or extremists….and yeah i guess i didnt get wat u mean when u say that muslims are killed everyday by christians, hindus etc in places like isreal, kashmir and all dat…
im from india and i guess we know better how these stupid f****** friggin idiots who call themselves Jehadis treat ppl..like dirt
Im not a pro american or anti muslim..just wanted to tell u all that plz stop thinking that Muslims are and were deprived of nething…nething at all
Hey is everyone trying to blame the Muslims for all this or ru guys just being biased and oh yeah u so called Americans…how convienently u forgot that CIA was responsible for creating Osama…didnt u guys train him against the Russians…looks as if u guys are getting taste of ur own medicnine…
All u Americans are nuthing but cowards and yeah just coz u can swear on any goddamn thing doesnt make u a Great Country….
and oh yeah did i hear anyone sayin that ur defense services was the best in the world?????
hahahahaha……FYI…ur USAF was outperformed by wud u belive it ….Indian Air Force…no kiddin..
US F-15Cs were said to have been defeated more than 90 per cent of the time in direct combat exercises against the IAF…so yeah now pluheezz stop braggin abt ur defense power…u guys are piece of shit and oh yeah Laura…if you really think that ur blessed being an American..think again coz America was created by ppl just like u..sluts,beggars, thieves and all the downtrodden ppl and they were shipped out of british land coz they cudnt handle u guys..so ur a country who has a long history of ppl who are nuthing but pain in the @ss to the world world….
Everytime something like this happens, I have to admit, my initial reaction is “Go over there, turn the whole Country into a sheet of glass and get our oil”… That is a gut reflex… I’m not ashamed of it, but I also am grateful that my gut response does not dictate actual policy in this country.
I realize of course, after cooling down a bit, that doing what I mentioned above solves absolutely nothing and would kill so many truly innocent people whose only ‘crime’ if you can call it that, is living in a country run by these extremists and terrorists.
I cannot stomach the job that Bush has done for the past 2 years. I think he has made horrendous mistake after mistake. I also realize however, that I could NEVER do his job nor would I want too.
Honestly, at this point my opinion is that the BEST thing that can be done for America and her Allies is to simply pull up stakes and leave all the Middle Eastern Countries to their own devices for the time being. Get our people home instead of leaving them there to die. This of course is also not a viable option.
I really don’t see an ‘easy out’ at this point. All I can hope is that eventually the extremists over there, in their bid for ultimate power, will wipe each other out. All we can hope in the meantime is that the cost in innocent lives be held to a bare minimum. 🙁
Canadian Irish Man you are not only a moron, you and the UN are cowards!
[quote]During the time of the 9/11 attack the Bin Laden Family was staying at the Bush’s Resident for a couple days (Weird) and the Laden Family were the only ones that were able to fly Home, while every airport in Canada and U.S. was grounded! And why is it that the Laddan Family has given the Bush Family Millions of Dollars is Cash on many Occasions?[/quote]
What tabloid are you reading you misinformed idiot!
[quote]There is a reason why Canada and the UN Nations did not want to be part of the Bloody War.[/quote]
Because you are soft bellied, mama suckling cowards! I’ll use smaller words for you this time perhaps you’ll understand…
Stand in front of very big boy…
Have very big boy hit you in face…
Stand up…
Have very big boy hit you in face again…
Stand up again…
Do over and over…
How long before you fight back stupid?
[quote]If as some Americans say U.S. has their own Oil. then why did Bush call it Food of Oil?[/quote]
It was called food FOR oil idiot. You know…so starving iraqi’s could eat.
[quote]And why is it that your Gas Prices in the U.S. keep going up? Is it because U.S. is running short of Oil and wants more? In Canada we have our own Oil! allot of American don’t know is we sell Oil to the U.S. as well as we supply some parts of American with Hydro (electricity).[/quote]
This is rich you pea-brained rocket scientist. You have paid MUCH more for gasoline, ( I forgot, little words for you), you have paid MUCH more for PETRO than we have in the US all your life!
I thank God I live in a country willing to stand up for the most basic of human rights…freedom.
Brittany. You need to be sure who you are referring to. I believe you meant to respond to Shane as HE commented on being an ex soldier, not me.
Canadian Irish Man, I am American and agree with your comments completely! Bush needs to go! I don’t disagree with everything he did (Afghanistan), but his ignorance has lost our international backing, THUS placing our troops in Iraq at grave risk by having to go at it mostly alone. If Bush had intellect, he may of been able convince the world that liberating Iraq must be done. Saddam financially supported terrorist activities. Unfortunately Bush is going about many things the wrong way. He has been glowing with arrogance and quick to threaten war to whomever he sees a threat, without having the balls to face combat himself when he had the chance (Vietnam). Bush breeds FEAR as the terrorists breed FEAR. Terrorism must be fought, but we must be inventive and intelligent in the ways we fight it, while remaining in good light with the world by not threatening what seems like everyone. If Bush had not lost international support, the Iraqi war would have been over perhaps a year ago.
Derek
How noble your cause… how pathetically naive’.
[quote]Bush breeds FEAR as the terrorists breed FEAR. Terrorism must be fought, but we must be inventive and intelligent in the ways we fight it, while remaining in good light with the world by not threatening what seems like everyone.[/quote]
You cannot reason with terror or terrorists. You cannot reason with “something” that places NO VALUE on human life especially their own. While you are being “inventive and intelligent” terrorists are training, planning and executing innocent people. While you are “remaining in a good light” the terrorists are laughing at the dinner table with those whom you wish to remain in a good light with. If you simply keep drawing a line in the sand daring them to cross it, they will… that is until you give them a good swift kick in the balls every time they try.
Read a newspaper, or maybe even learn to read. get an education, stop being so naive and stop bombing the world. Americans are fools. I am British and we laugh at all of you for being so stupid. You are blood thirsty as the rest of them, and such you are getting what you deserve. More is to come, and you deserve every ounce of it and more. I’d be surprised if any of you could give any details of Iraq’s history or its neighbours, but as usual, this is pointless info to have. As long as you can kill people you will be happy. It is your mantra they are living by. Any criticism of them is criticism of yourself.
Can someone intelligente from the US please answer me these questions:
1. If it’s not about oil or money then what is the United States response going to be towards North Korea, the KOngo, to continued fighting in Algeria, to continued fighting in Ethiopia and the persecution of the poor? NOt to mention the continued nuclear stand-off between Pakistan and India?
I will be grateful if you answer with not deviate away from the question but actually give an answer as what the response should be to these countries.
2. If it is about oil than what would be the US response be if a foreign islamic country killed 20.000 american citizens on their own soil to protect the Texas oilfields?
Would it possibly be the beheading of the Islamists?
Angela go find a hole in the ground and put your head in it for the rest of you F#$@*$G life and while you’re at it find a different country to live in you anti-american B$#%@
Sad sad sad, you poor US-Citizens don’t even realize how brainwashed you are by your own government, to be more clear it is embarrassing how you open your mouth repeating what your president is telling you, without having any background information or just a little bit of your own opinion.
You are just running like a bunch of lemmings and be sure that you will run down the edge as well. Because your wars and waepons don’t make the world and your country safer, it is the opposite! Just look how scared you are!
Get it in your head you are not victims you are provoking and asking for actions like the september the 11th. I was actually surprised that it happened that late.
Stand up, wake up, open your eyes and get some proper informations. You make me angry and being disgusted with your actions and your little excuses and whingnig what poor people you are.
just one question? Where do you think that the other guys have got theirs weapons from?
As you probably are not able to answer it, I guess for you, yes from your country!!!
There were never any weapons of mass destruction and if your government thought there were, it is because they had the reseipts in their backpockets! You disagree with drug pushers so why don’t you disagree with suppliers of weapons?
The world that you are creating in other words a culture of killing, invading and bombing is only going to create more responses like the ones we saw to Paul.
A very angry girl from Austria
Dear Styx
I wish it was your head that was cut off
My guess is that you are fat, unhealthy, and don’t have a passport.
I had quite a few relatives who fought in WWII. Not all of them made it home. I am sure they are all rolling over in their graves. The thought of my uncle in a grave in Normandy makes me want to puke.
I know 20/20 is hindsight but from where I am sitting I wish we let Hitler wipe you all out! What a bunch of Pussies you all are. Al-Quedas attack on the World Trade Center caused many countries to lose citizens not just Americans. The fact that you pin heads are so ungrateful makes me sick.
Fuck the whole load of you ungrateful anti Americans. Yes, I proudly display my Boycott France bumper sticker on my Land Rover.
What has Al Quaeda got to do with world war two. My family also lost members during that war, but I fail to see the connection. The problem we have communicating with our American friends on this matter is that you always go back into historical facts with no relevance. The historical facts here of relevance are the US involvemnet in putting both Saddam and Osama into power in the first place. If you don’t know any of this, and we know your government has been shy on such information to you, then I can put you in touch with some good source material. Apart from that, it would do you good to question these actions and realise why you are in this hateful position, and that your current responses keep this viscious cycle continuing. I am afraid the world is not on your side in these matters, and see you as a nothing short of a “bully nation”. What has Iraq got to do with you anyway? Why are you there? It is a long way away. Someone asked about North Korea. If Iraq, then why not NK. Please please answer.
Dear David
Well put. But you also forgot to mention US involvement in Israel. It is quite impossible to argue that Israel is not stealing land and not keeping the Palestinians in concentration camp conditions. Even that is agreed upon by the senate. Yet we still give $5 billion a year in aid to Israel. Exactly the same amount as it costs to keep their army going. Post WW2, there was also US involvement in Vietnam, where over 4 million civilians were killed by allied bombs. That is quite disgusting.
My brother lost an arm in Boston Tea Party. I am sure he’d be turning in his grave too, but his other arm is getting in the way. I think that proves my point.
I would like to let all who read this know that whilst my name is David I have absolutely nothing to do with the David who called the Canadians such insulting names. And to let him know about his facts, “at which point during the conflict did you think the Iraqi’s were starving”. They weren’t. Why would you think that? Thats not true. At all. Even Bush agrees that. Even your sanctions didn’t make that happen. Do I suspect that you actually know very little about the country you just bombed, and you are just being carried away on a wave of bomb the world and make it better? Also, so far lots and lots and lots of them are dead now, because of your country, and some have been tortured, but don’t worry about that, it was only horseplay and anyhow, we’re the good people, so that was just a blip. Not really a great way to get to the point of saying “hey, its us, we’re your friends. Do you want some food?” Think about it? At what point did you think killing them would help them?
Well you all talk a good fight so why ain’t you out there with your fellow Americans. A man was beheaded because of his country of birth not because of any religious belief or hatred of him as a person. This was done with a coldness of heart and a want to destroy another persons life. I think we all should stop for a moment to think of Pauls family and friends which I am sure would have included Muslims as he had choosen to live his life within their country.
Paul had not chosen to live his life in that country. He was posted there. You can’t chose to live in Saudi Arabia. Its not
Mexico. You need to be sent. Thats why they live in compounds, not all inclusives.
Your answer to all problems is to bomb it. We wish you would concentrate on your own problems, and naybe you’d destruct from the inside.
David,
[quote]And to let him know about his facts, “at which point during the conflict did you think the Iraqi’s were starving”.[/quote]
Please do your homework BEFORE you speak so you don’t insult your own intelligence.
The UN imposed the oil sanctions against Iraq in 1990 after THEY INVADED Kuwait. About 5 years later the “food for oil” program was started.
Here’s where you could have done your homework…
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/
Too many nations turn a “blind eye” to what is going on in their own country. Some even get paid for their “cooperation”, Afganistan comes to mind. I’m not a lemming, I do have my own opinions, and the newespapers I read are not tabloids. Wake up people! Terrorists are in your own backyard. The have been there for as long as there has been terrorists. And yet, all many nations do is continue to draw that line in the sand.
Rules without enforcement are useless.
Kim, you do not need to be sent here. You can come to work here of your own free will. 99% of the defense contractors, such as myself, are here of our own free will. We were approached by Dyncorp Corporation, to come over here to train the Saudis on the F-15 C, D, and S models. There have been Americans over here of their own free will for more than 20 years. I work with some people that have been here 10 years or more.
DAVID YOU HEATLESS BASTARD!!
I knew I would stir the pot with someone with a small brain and no care for Human life like David! It is People like you that look for a War, when you think someone did you wrong! You sound like a Kid that had been given a Hand Gun or possibly a Shotgun for your 5th Birthday!! It is People like you that need to be slapped up side the Head over and over again till you wake up.. and before there is nothing left of this World! We all feel the pain for Paul Johnson and His Family and Hundreds of other Family’s who have lost love ones in this Stupid Bloody War! Now If you so smart David? How do you stop this War that you so strongly agree on.. with out Killing any more Innocent People? You must have the answer you seem to bash everything, I have said and anyone else who have tried to make any sense of this? Oh and by the way this Gas [PETRO]. We have always paid more here for it and you know why? ..Bet Ya Don’t Smart Ass! We Sell our PETRO and HYDRO to the U.S. for Cheaper then the Sell to our self’s. I pay more for our Hydro for my home and Gas then you do at the pumps even if it comes from Canada.. Now this is Stupid just like the way your President Bush makes no Sense with this War.. and you with let’s kill [Bomb] everyone who gives you a slap and anyone else [Children], [Women], and the Innocent who is sleeping next door! Eh.
I keep hearing about Muslim Extremists on the news, and on the internet. To tell you the truth, i am just as afraid of any religous extremist, catholic, baptist, etc… Anybody who has extreme religous devotion and takes it to the point in which they start interpreting their “bible” to suit their needs is dangerous. Look at Jim Baker, Oral Roberts, and Jimmy Swaggart. Please tell me where it says in the bible to build an amusement park for god. Also take a look at a good majority of the people who commit acts of violence against abortion clinics. They are very devoutly religous people. It’s not just the muslims that I would be scared of.
I am from South America, not from any of the countries involved in this war. However, I have to say: Irak has never invaded the US, has never killed any american children. US has attacked, killed inocents, overtake land, destroy Iraqui cities and humilliate their people on cams only to get their oil and prove the US power.
I understand why islamic and iraquies are doing what they are doing, I can see their actions as a reponse for their rage for US attacks and land overtaking. however I dont understand US reasons for this attacks, I can only think they are just doing it for the American Ego.
Posted by: Sara at June 19, 2004 05:27 PM
OH I GUESS THEY DID NOT COME AND DO 9/11 THEN THAT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME GHOST. US HAS NEVER ATTACKED AND KILLED INNOCENTS UNLIKE SUICIDE BOMBERS OH WAIT LET ME GUESS THAT INSTEAD OF IT BEING AN IRAQ SUICIDE BOMBER YOU THINK ITS AN AMERICAN, YOU DUMB BITCH YOU NEED TO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSHOLE AND WAKE THE FUCK UP THE REASON WE ARE ATTACKING THAT COUNTRY IS BECAUSE OF 9/11 THE TERROIST ACTS ON OUR COUNTRY NOT BECAUSE OF POWER, NOT BECAUSE OF OIL, ITS ON TERROISM PERHAPS IF YOU WOULD WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT HAPPEND ON 9/11 AND HAD TO SEE THE HORRIBLE AWFUL TRAGEDY THAT WE WITNESSED THEN JUST MAYBE YOU COULD WAKE UP AND UNDERSTAND THE REASON WE ARE ATTACKING THEM. MIGHT I ADD IM PROUD TO BE AMERICAN AND THOSE OF IT WHO DON’T LIKE IT KISS MY MOTHERFUCKING ASS!!!!
SARA YOUR SUCH A DUMB BITCH FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!
Canadian Irish Man,
[quote]How do you stop this War that you so strongly agree on.. with out Killing any more Innocent People? You must have the answer you seem to bash everything, I have said and anyone else who have tried to make any sense of this?[/quote]
You wish to stop the war an terrorism? You wish to allow the terrorists to continue butchering innocent lives across the globe? You want more bombings like the one in Spain? You want radical extremists with their perverted sense of “religion” to to be able to roam the globe freely? No, I do not wish to stop the war on terror and terrorists. I want narrow minded people like you to stop sitting on your hands and take a proactive stand against them. How many countries do you suppose have terroist activities going on inside their borders right now? How many of those countries turn a “blind eye” to these activities for fear of retaliation from the butchers?
[quote]Oh and by the way this Gas [PETRO]. We have always paid more here for it and you know why? ..Bet Ya Don’t Smart Ass! We Sell our PETRO and HYDRO to the U.S. for Cheaper then the Sell to our self’s. I pay more for our Hydro for my home and Gas then you do at the pumps even if it comes from Canada.[/quote]
And you suggest that I have a small brain?
GAS OVER IN THE FOREIGN LANDS IS $1.78 A LITER. WE GET OURS $1.78 A GALLON OR HOW MUCH YOU PAY IN YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS. I WOULD TAKE A GALLON OVER A LITER ANY DAY AT LEAST YOUR GETTING MORE FOR YOUR BUCK.
I live in Saudi Arabia. I’m 15. I’m american. For those of you who live in the states and believe our military shouldn’t be in Iraq, Well your wrong. I’ve seen hatred towards Americans displayed in more ways than I can count. You don’t understand how these people work. Nothin draws them away from their extremist beliefs, No matter how much you try to reason with them. We pull out of Iraq, And coutries alike, And all we’re gonna get is escalated terrorism. Don’t blame the government, Because fighting terrorism is our only option. These people don’t reason with you. I’ve get in more fights here with kids that hate Americans, Than anybody would ever get into in the states. I was born and raised in Saudi Arabia, and I believe we have every reason to be in Iraq kicking some ass.
Posted by: drew at June 19, 2004 05:34 PM
^ FOR ONCE HERE IS SOMEONE THAT IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE SITUATION. FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO DON’T LIKE WHAT OUR ARMY IS DOING AND FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING IT FOR HERE IS WHAT I SAY TO YOU CLOWN MUPPETS FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
PROUD TO BE A FREE AMERICAN WITH RIGHTS.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS AND BRING THEM HOME SAFE.
FUCK CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We pay $0.79 a Liter ..There is 4.6 Liters to a Gallon of Gas.. Yes it is still cheaper in the U.S. your Lucky so far.. 🙂
AMERICA is the Death Of The World .. Keep it up Great Job Guys and Gals!! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT Till we are all DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David,
You say, “You cannot reason with terror or terrorists. You cannot reason with “something” that places NO VALUE on human life especially their own.”
I understand and agree with this point you are making, but by me saying “inventive and intelligent” does not mean I want to, “reason with terrorists”. You need to stop putting words in our mouths and relax for a moment. You should not be overly paranoid and see our allies as working with terrorists. Bush needs to get his facts straight BEFORE action. This FEAR you have is a huge part of the problem. You see? Pointing the finger AND being ignorant loses friends and gains enemies. How can this be good for us? We need the worlds backing to fight this ‘plague’ TOGETHER. FEAR only breeds more enemies and violence and animosity toward the U.S. This is why I oppose Bush, (not the US army nor the fight against terrorism). I want America to succeed AND to regain it’s soul in the process. It highly irritates me that so many people in control of my government including you have this ‘kill ’em all’ mentality. Yes I agree you need to stand up to a bully, BUT, Bush is making US look like the bully so what do you expect???
Perhaps it is you who is naïve? Combat should always be the last option. Some wars have been won WITHOUT combat. Read up on a little world history and perhaps you will learn a thing or two. Our president using his brain for once could perhaps save lives for a change.
Pray for Peace … not pieces!
I have come to the conclusion that all of you Anti-Americans are a waste. You are all jealous of our way of life here in the United States.
Our great country believes is fighting for the freedom we enjoy here. Why do so many of you knock us when you would move here in a heart beat?
As for you Canadian dude…keep smoking you BC Bud you fucking stoned waste of a life. I lost all respect for your country when Mulrooney left office. You are all a bunch of ungrateful losers. Most Americans I know now go out of there way to only buy American. I go way out my way to avoid anything made in Canada. Oh wait…. you really don’t make anything just bullshit statements.
As for Korea we are waiting for the new European Union to do something…….Like those useless sacks of shits will do anything. Take care of your own fucking problems. We are not going to waste our my precious resource (Our Great Military) for a bunch of pansies ass ungrateful fagots!
Anonymous writer … if you tone down the CAPS and eliminate SOME vulgarity, you may get people to think what you say comes from educated sources.
Not all Americans think like you. Why tarnish our reputation any more with your capitalized vulgarity and hatred.
Derek,
First things first…
[quote]It highly irritates me that so many people in control of my government including you have this ‘kill ’em all’ mentality.[/quote]
Who is putting words in who’s mouth? Not once have I said “kill” or “bomb” anyone. Not once have I said that I’m for, or against, the war in Iraq.
[quote] Read up on a little world history and perhaps you will learn a thing or two. Our president using his brain for once could perhaps save lives for a change.[/quote]
I assure you I’m quite well read on American and World history. Our presidents past, present, and hopefully future, have used their brains and saved many lives. That is not to say, innocents haven’t lost theirs in the process.
[quote]You should not be overly paranoid and see our allies as working with terrorists. Bush needs to get his facts straight BEFORE action.[/quote]
How do you suppose the Saudi’s were able to track down the butchers so quicky? Lucky guess? Stab in the dark? How is that videos of this kind of butchery are made transported and aired? An invisibility potion? Do these fanatics have a magic Star Trek transporter beam to “beam” themselves in and out of countries unnoticed? As for your second comment our president WAS getting the facts from our “allies”. I would suggest that YOU place far too little importance on not only history but what is happening as we speak.
[quote]Perhaps it is you who is naïve? Combat should always be the last option.[/quote]
How many years, decades, even centuries, do millions of innocents have to be brutally slain and butchered for you, before fighting back becomes an option? Forever?
Proud to be an American TOO.. But Dumb!!
You don’t know a thing about Canada or any other County as we can all see that! We are so glad you won’t come near us so Please Stay Far Far away! Canada is what help’s too keep America strong as well.. Fact allot of your goods on your self is made in Canada with U.S Marked on it for people like you! Example > Most of all your water containers and Fishing Box’s, Plastic Bag and so on is made in CANADA!! We make all the plastic water Jugs and for your army as well. Look on the Bottom of your containers if it says Reliance It is from here! Plastic and Fiber Fences made in Canada! Allot of your Homes Lumber .. Comes from Canada. And so on and so on … We here in Canada are 60% American and we don’t mind it at all. Fact Canadians don’t become American Citizens,.. American’s become Canadian Citizen! So I think you should do little research next time before you Speak !
Canadian Irish Man,
You want to talk about dumb….
A lot = two separate words…..
P.S. Any country that names their currency Looney and Tooney has more than a few screws loose! Please don’t bother with the lesson about the loon bird as I have already come to the conclusion that our neighbors to the North are a few cards short of a full deck.
P.S.S. Oh and your lesson on lumber and plastics was so enlightening…………… LMAO
To people outside the United States:
Three thousand people were killed on a single day inside our country. That changed our willingness to sit by and watch those who might potentially harm us. We were and are no longer willing to accept potential threats from sources outside the United States. Saddam Hussein was a murderer who had invaded another country and shown that he was willing to do Americans and our allies harm. If Saddam had ever gotten his hads on the bomb, or VX gas, he may have used it on us, or sold it to someone who would. This was not acceptable to us. We were not willing to wait and see if he already had WMD or could create it. So, we attacked.
It is fair to say now that the intelligence leading up to our invasion of Iraq was wrong. It appears Iraq did not have WMD. Nevertheless, to us, just the threat of being attacked again was enough for us to invade Iraq and depose Saddam.
It may be that we will never find weapons of mass destruction. It is certain though that a man who slaughtered his own people no longer has the capacity to do so. Removing a murderer was reason enough to invade, though not the primary impetus for doing so. For those of you who say, then why don’t we go after Rwanda, or Congo, or North Korea, I would say we would if we could. None of the above mentioned governments has behaved in a way that directly threatens our security.
I think the trial of Saddam Hussein will be an important moment for the world because it will expose in detail what a truly evil man he is. When all the horror he has caused has been exposed, I think many of you on this board will change your opinion about whether or not it was right to go, even if the banner that we were marching under at the time displayed false or misleading pretenses.
Our, alterior motive for going to Iraq was to try and jolt the middle east in to modernity. The middle east is a land of great promise, but the heads of governments there oppress their own people. The presence of US troops has put these governments on notice. Iran, Syria, Lybia and the house of Saud will face increasing pressure from home to broaden the scope of civil rights in their respective countries.
Many fundamentialists in the middle east do not want their world to change, this is The reason that you are seeing things like beheadings in Iraq and Saudi Arabia. The pressure to change is mounting. The Saudis will now have to deal directly with the fundamentalists that they help to create through their Wahhabism, their own version of Islam. They will have to deal with fundamentalists and reform, or be removed from power. These are good signs. In a way, Nick Berg & Paul Johnson are martyrs, in the sense that their deaths have forced the Saudis to look internally at problems.
No one wants war. However, selfishly, I would much rather our troops fighting on foreign soil than seeing more buildings tumble to the ground here in the US. For those of you who have been critical of the US invading Iraq, I say, you weren’t attacked on September 11th. This changed the game for us. The vastness of the sea could no longer protect us, so we chose to seek our enemies on their own turf.
History will show that our invasion was the right thing to do. When Saddam goes to trial, the number of critics will begin to dissipate.
The Iraqi people now have a chance at freedom. They haven’t had that chance in 30 years. My God, that alone is worth the price of invasion.
Most of you all do not know how Saddam came to power in Iraq, or what he did when he came.
On Saddam’s first night in power, he gathered together many of his own country’s top politicians and leaders at a lecture hall in Baghdad. The meeting was carried on live TV. In the course of the meeting, Saddam began to call out names of various local and regional leaders in the Audience. The men that were called were escorted in to the street and shot.
He displayed this barbarism on live TV to strike fear in to the hearts of all his countrymen. He wished to say to his fellow Iraqis, “This is how it will be. You will fear me, or you will die.”
He was and is a horrible man. If we never find a drop of VX gas or an ounce of plutonium, it was still worth going. The man was a murderer.
The entire middle east now has an increased chance to be free. If Iraq is a success, other nations will want to follow. The theocracy in Iran and the oligarchy in Saudi Arabia will not exist in their current iterations if Iraq becomes a successful country. If those two giant chips fell in to place, the entire planet could breathe easier and feel safer. Is this not worth going to war for?
Some of you all hate violence, but to live oppressed, brutalized, and without the fundamental aspects of freedom is to not live at all.
I thank God for the leadership and foresight of Tony Blair and George Bush. They understand that the stakes are high, but if we win, which would mean a stable, pluarlistic, tolerant middle east, then the ends are certainly worth the means.
I love Canada, Great Britain, and the United States. There are those of you on this board who claim to have some understanding of history. I say that, if you did, you would cheer the work of American and British soldiers, along with those in the middle east who wish to be free. The middle east has not known peace and freedom for most of its history. At least now it has a chance.
Hello to all of you guys being posting messages on this board, as well to all the davids and specially to “proud to be american too”.
I want to make my thoughts clear and I am sure lots of you agree, whatever opinion you have about the nasty things happening.
We have a few things in common:
we want to live in peace and don’t want to be scared.
We don’t want personally go to war and risk our lifes and leave family friends etc. behind.
NOW, I am not Anti US-American per-se, but I do think that you or your government should change the way to treat terrorism, because hatred causes heatred and so on. So answering the problems and attacks with violence (with good reasons or not) is just causing new violence. And some of the two need to be breaking the cycle otherwise it just goes on and on and worse.
I am Austrian, and Hitler was Austrian too, but I am only 27 and wasn’t there, but I am still embarrassed that the guy was born in Austria, even though he got his power in Germany.
Now Bush is a very dangerous person and I am scared that the whole world just becomes war and hatred. That’s why I am on this page, to shake your guys thoughts and wake up or at least question it a bit more, and don’t elect him again, so this world can become more peaceful again.
Bush is creating a mess, be honest.
And it is not against you americans, we do have a different culture, but it is far above that, I just want to make you think and not create an online fighting.
Please do me the favour and think about the similarities between Hitler and Bush and not only think about it, get information, and then please tell me again I am Anti-American.
We Europeans cannot write to Bush or do anything. The only thing what we can do is to contact you guys and say “PLEASE DON’T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN”.
So lets stop and tell each other stupid Americans or stupid Anti-Americans, lets talk about the problem and about a solution, because at the end it is what we all want. A solution.
Thank you for reading this and thinking about it.
Simone
In response to Simone
I don’t think you made it clear about Bush and Hitler. It is a silly comparison, but I think what you are trying to get across is that the German people are good, well natured people, and Hitler came to power because of a wave of hatred which allowed the Germans to take their eye off the ball. Before they knew it, war was the answer. No matter what the intensions, it never works. I am sorry for many of the remarks made in this column, by myself, and others. The freedom of never meeting you people on the internet means we can be this horrible to each other, but in truth, I don’t hate these commentators, but wish they could just take a look at peaceful solutions. I have a daughter. If someone was to kill her intentionally, I would take that other persons life if I could. I know it would be wrong, but I don’t think it would matter. I think I would be weak enough to live with that feeling forever. And so I feel I understand all sides. The problem is, does anyone think that there will come a point when one side says “well, thats about enough deaths, we should stop now”. Of course not. It just breeds more violence. And neither should the American way be seen as a panacea for life’s ills. It isn’t and alot of poeple like their way of life without the promise of turning their land into another Texas. The US needs to be more careful where it treads, for a Dylan Thomas said “as you tread on my dreams”. No offence meant, but there HAS to be a better way than this.
Simone & David
Peace to you 2 and all the People who live in this messed up World! We all need to work on a solution not a (Killing Spree). America need a new President” and all the UN Nations must start working together to help restore Peace!
Well said John!
Some of you use the word “invade” when it come to Iraq, I use the word “liberate”.
I have posed a question to some that, as yet, remains unanswered so I will ask again…
How many years, decades, even centuries, do millions of innocents have to be brutally slain and butchered for you, before fighting back becomes an option? Forever?
WHEN do you stop simply drawing a line in the sand?
Please don’t say “When all peaceful, non-combat, options have been exhausted.” There will ALWAYS be alternatives.
Since we have the luxury of hindsight…
During the cold war when President Reagan said to President Gorbachev “…this is a race you will surely lose…” what if “President Gorbachev said…”We shall see…”
During the cuban missle crisis would President Kennedy have pushed the button? Thankfully we’ll never know.
These were men of reason and “diplomacy” prevailed at that moment in history. We will fortunately never know if each of those were the very last line drawn in the sand.
Terrorists are NOT men of reason. History shows this. They ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will sieze whatever the “flavor of the day” as a justification for their sensless brutality under the guise of their peverted sense of religion.
If you wish to compare Hitler to someone take a close look at the terrorist groups and their leaders.
I want to make something PERFECTLY clear for the record. I DO NOT want ANYONE to die. I DO NOT want to bomb anyone. I DO NOT want a killing spree.
However, the terrorists DO NOT want what I do. It is WHY we call them terrorists.
If anyone here can or knows of ANYBODY who can PEACEFULLY convince them that PEACEFUL COEXISTANCE is the answer through diplomacy, something that has not been done since the advent of terrorism, please raise your hand.
Anybody? I didn’t think so.
Dear David,
I a mnot a politician, and even then as we see they don’t know how to find a peaceful solution. But one thing is for sure, war and violence will just make them more and more angry and feel even more proved in their way to do the things as terrorists. Don’t you agree?
You guys are playing their games, just as they want to have it because they are extreme but the more we answer that with the way they do it, the nastier they will become.
Therefor first of all it needs a break, and then a different reaction than what is going on now.
I mean we all know that Bushes always answers (with his right hand up) and says : We will not allow this… and fight back.. la la la
I don’t even to watch the news anymore for this.
A peaceful solution, if it exists, is difficult and will take time, and a lot of peoples heads and a lot of coutries help, and one thing is for sure, if you would act in that way, you would have much more support from a lot of countries than now!
To say they don’t want what i want,it is not possible and fighting back is the only possible way, is lazy and easy.
Think about it, it is so much easier to shoot them than to discuss or deal with them. And then as well it is a business, we should not forget that, for them and for you guys!
look the austrian military is ridiculously small, if someone wanted to bomb us, we couldn’t even fight back properly and would look pretty stupid, but then why are the terrorists not attacking us?
One thing for a start, to go into a peaceful solution would be NOT SUPPORTING vicous Israel!!!
Simone,
For not being a politician your rhetoric is quite good. You, and others have carefully avoided and failed to answer the question I pose…
How many years, decades, even centuries, do millions of innocents have to be brutally slain and butchered for you, before fighting back becomes an option? Forever?
WHEN do you stop simply drawing a line in the sand?
Please don’t say “When all peaceful, non-combat, options have been exhausted.” There will ALWAYS be alternatives. This answer simply means that it is NOT an option.
[quote]look the austrian military is ridiculously small, if someone wanted to bomb us, we couldn’t even fight back properly and would look pretty stupid, but then why are the terrorists not attacking us?[/quote]
Are you aware of terrorist activities going on in your own country? Have YOU asked your government what THEY are trying to do to stop the spread of terroism? Perhaps you should check out the following…
http://www.balkanpeace.org/our/our02.shtml
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/fw/E86D926A-6D6E-4395-AD91108154DED3F7.html
This second link is especially interesting. Here’s how it starts…
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A U.S. security expert says Austria could play a more active role in the fight against global terrorism by helping to prevent terrorist organizations and states that sponsor such organizations from financing their operations
http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/BG1485.cfm
Here’s an exerpt from this one…
Other donor governments are not subject to these restrictions. For instance, Germany, Japan, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Austria, and France are the top five donors of net official development assistance (ODA), averaged from 1998 and 1999, to Iran; and Germany, Norway, the European Commission, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands are the top five donors to Iraq. All told, the seven state sponsors of terrorism received $974 million in net ODA (average of 1998 and 1999). (See Table 1.)
[quote]To say they don’t want what i want,it is not possible and fighting back is the only possible way, is lazy and easy.[/quote]
No Simone. Being lazy and easy is sitting on your hands saying “Don’t do that” when easy and peaceful means to help are at YOUR fingertips and YOU don’t take them.
To all,
If you don’t believe terrorist activities are happening in your own back yard, this report may interest you…
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2004/mar/europol-terr-rep-2003.pdf
Took a lot of reading to catch up.
As I stated Friday, “W” is not interested in chasing out dictators from foreign lands and giving people freedom like he loves to claim.
If he was, there’s one 75 miles SE of Florida who’s been there a real long time.
China undisputedly has nuclear weapons— also run by dictatorship. N. Korea, Libya, and Iran (as well as Iraq) are suspected of having nuclear weapons….we haven’t attacked N. Korea lately, Libya hasn’t been bombed in 20 years and Iran is/was a staunch enemy of the US, but, hmmm, we haven’t gone to war with them lately either.
Egypt, Syria, Iran, Libya, and many other countries have or are suspected to have Chemical and Biological Weapons- “WMD’s” as they are known.
The U.S.A. has Nuclear Weapons, and does research on both Biological and Chemical weapons.
Interesting, oh yeah, we are the “good guys”. hmmmmm. Our “friends” in Israel have all three, or are suspected of having all of them. Interesting.
The point I am trying to make, once again, is for people to open their eyes. See what is really happening. Don’t get your news from CNN or Fox. Dig deeper into the news. See what is really behind what is happening.
Over 800 Americans, real Americans, have died because they didn’t. My father served 27 years in the Army. The one thing he made sure was that I never enlisted. He said “Intelligent men don’t belong in the military.” “W” doesn’t care about the men/women in Iraq. They are just pawns to be used on the chessboard.
Ask yourselves why we are waiting until fall to launch our offensive in Afghanistan. Isn’t that where Bin Laden is purported to be?
Can someone tell me when the election is? I can’t seem to recall. hmmmm
At a very expensive fundraising dinner, “W” made this remark. “Some people call you the elite, I call you my base.”
This doesn’t strike me as a caring person, not a “people” president.
If you fit in that elite category, keep on keepin’ on.
We cannot keep up what we are doing. I’m sure some of what I have said will illicit some swearing. It seems some of the people in this blog can only respond with such.
What I hope to do is simply to offer some openings to what is really behind what is going on. Nothing more.
I hope we can all agree on that.
“I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my sould by making me hate him.” Booker T Washington
Dear David
Absolutely. I will answer your question. But first, why don’t you give me your answer. For how long do we have to keep butchering people before we decide the world is good. You answer first, and let us know when it will finish. And I will give you my answer. The fact is, violence breeds violence. So violence is not a solution.
Regards
Dai
In regard to nuclear weapons. Fissile material can be detected from our very own satalites. This means we know where all nuclear missiles are. At present, the US has enough to blow up the world 80 times over. But hey, these aren’t weapons of mass destruction, because we’re the good guys, and don’t intend to use them. So thats ok.
I am signing out. I am fed up of thick blood thirsty US assholes who have no idea except violence. Rot in your own juice.
David (the well travelled, well read one, not the one who is happy to send his fellow Americans and friends to war to fight his prejudices). Enjoy your armchair David. It must be so tough sending your toy soldiers to fight from that position.
I am signing out. I am fed up of thick blood thirsty US assholes who have no idea except violence. Rot in your own juice.
David (the well travelled, well read one, not the one who is happy to send his fellow Americans and friends to war to fight his prejudices). Enjoy your armchair David. It must be so tough sending your toy soldiers to fight from that position.
Posted by: David at June 22, 2004 12:23 AM
FIRST OF ALL NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE BLOOD THIRSTY ASSHOLES. PERHAPS YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD TOO FAR UP YOUR ASS TO REALIZE THAT YOU AMERICAN HATER.
AMERICA is the Death Of The World .. Keep it up Great Job Guys and Gals!! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT Till we are all DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ltiile Time Left Till The End!! at June 20, 2004 03:49 PM
IF IT WASN’T FOR AMERICANS OVER THERE FIGHTING YOUR ASS PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE HERE TO TYPE. AMERICA IS NOT THE DEATH OF THE WORLD AND WE ARE NOT GONNA DIE, I SUGGEST YOU READ YOUR BIBLE AND GO TO CHURCH AND LEARN THE WORD OF GOD.
Simone,
You answered my question. Thank you. It is clear that for you fighting back is only an option if it is peaceful. You might as well say it is NOT an option ever.
As for me, I will do what you and others did not. I will answer your question directly.
[quote]For how long do we have to keep butchering people before we decide the world is good.[/quote]
Me personally…right now. Me as an American…right now. Me as a human being…right now. Stop all killing. Turn our planet into Utopia. That is what I want. This is unrealistic. As long as there are differring ideoligies there will be conflict. As long as there is conflict there will be violence. As wonderful as it would be to have a peaceful solution to every problem in the world it is not at all realistic.
When you talk about butchering, Saddam Hussein BUTCHERED an estimated 600,000 civilians. I would very much encourage you to read this…
http://www.lesjones.com/posts/000973.shtml
You say violence breeds violence. Failure enforce reasonable rules and sanctions, encourages and promotes more violence.
I would also encourage you to read the post by John above. I could not have said it better myself.
Iraqi hostage beheaded – report
22/06/2004 – 17:58:37
An Iraqi militant group has beheaded its South Korean hostage, the pan-Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera reported tonight.
The channel said it had received a video tape saying he has been executed.
Kim Sun-il, 33, who worked for a South Korean company supplying the US military in Iraq, was abducted last week.
Al-Jazeera said the execution was carried out by the al-Qaida-linked group Monotheism and Jihad.
Earlier it had been reported that the kidnappers had extended to execution deadline to allow for further negotiations.
I believe in our president I think he is doing the best job that can be done. Honstly I think it would be a mistake for Kerry to win this presidency. He has said that he does not agree with this war and more than likely he would pull the troops out of afghanistan and iraq which would cause thousands of their people to die. My father is in Afghanistan and he says most of the people he has talked to are for the United States help in their government.
I also feel that Bush should pull out the national guard and reserves and send the killers in. I have nothing against national guard, my cousin received a purple heart for fighting for his country in the national guard. I am saying that he wasn’t trained as well in the guard as the active duty soldiers are. If we would have sent in the artillary and bombers we could get this taken care of.
I want to say God bless all the soldiers that are over there fighting for us to stay free. You are doing a wonderful job. I hear people talking all the time about how stupid this war is and talking down about our president. I wish for one day those people had to live in a country like Afghanistan and Iraq, maybe then they would appreciate the freedom that many men have risked their lives maintaining.
BRITTANY, YOU ARE JUST PLAIN DUMB. I WILL NOT EVEN BOTHER WITH YOU. YOUR JUST PLAIN CLUELESS. HAVE A NICE DAY.
I will tell you one thing, David, terrorism is happening everywhere, but strangely enough is that the latest and nastiest attacks have been directed to you guys. I have done my homework and read about terrorism, but at the end we just have to see where what happens.
And one more thing why don’t you attack N. korea and China, because they don’t challenge and threaten you enough, but I at the end know only one country who has ever used an atomic bomb in war, and that was you guys, you are the most threatening folks on earth, together with Israel.
But anyway you are convinced about war is being the right thing.
You tell me how many people you want to controll and kill until you finally stop>
quote: When you talk about butchering, Saddam Hussein BUTCHERED an estimated 600,000 civilians. I would very much encourage you to read this…
well done guys and you have slaugthered over 4 millions civilians in Vietnam, so you are much better than him, haeh? well done really! if somebody else does what you do it is not ok.
Question for you! What is the difference between that america killed 4 millions civilians in Vietnam and half a million now in Irac and so on and sadam hussein?
that was my lst message, because you guys just convince me more and more that your level of intellegence is just not high enough.
Good luck with everything and find a good answer for your kids as well.
We are the U.S. Simone. We have no shame and yes we were the first to use an A-bomb. That was because we could. And we still can. But on thing is for sure, you are not very intelligent because you could not even spell half of you words right in your blog. Ignorance must be bliss, because you are definitely ignorant. The U.S. will win this war and there is nothing any little Muslim extremist can do. In the end we will win and you fucking know it. By the way I do agree with you on one thing,”Fuck Isreal”. They are as bad as Saddam and Hitler. Have a lovely day.
Oh, also did I forget to mention that we Americans have no shame?
Dear Shane
My name is Simone. I am from Austria. My first languages are Austrian, German and Italian. My French is ok, I am fluent in Spanish and I get by in English quite well in my job. As a result of this my spelling for English is a little poor, and so I am very sorry for my spelling mistakes. Maybe if you would like me to translate it into another language for you I will. I am sure that will help if you are having trouble with this.
Sorry
Simone
Dear Shame
You sound so funny, and your called Shane. Your a stand up comic aren’t you????? Either that or a complete arse.
Hallo Shane, noch was das ich dir asagen wollt, abgeshen davon dass ich mir denke dass in deiner Birne ne Zeitbombe sitzt, aber du hast meine frage immer noch nicht beantwortet, aber was ist nun der Unterschied, wenn ihr 4 Millionen Menschen umbringt und Saddam 600.000? Er steigt immer noch besser aus, als was ist eure Ausrede?
you don’t need to understand all of it, but the point is that you didn’t answer the question, because Saddam with his 600.000 is still looking a much better person than you with your 4 millions and much more,
so what is your explaination and why should I believe that you are good and have the right for that what you are doing.
Sad Very Sad. At Least When Bill Clinton Was President There Were No Wars. The Gas Prices Were Reasonable. The Schools Were Not In A Budget Crisis.
THIS IS FOR ALL THE DEMOCRAT HATING FUCKIN BITCHES *FUCK YOU!*
[QUOTE]Sad Very Sad. At Least When Bill Clinton Was President There Were No Wars. The Gas Prices Were Reasonable. The Schools Were Not In A Budget Crisis.
THIS IS FOR ALL THE DEMOCRAT HATING FUCKIN BITCHES *FUCK YOU!* [QUOTE]
Happy Very Happy. Now that Bush is president we no longer have to worry about getting smacked around. I have no problem paying more for gas, nor should you after you….. GET A JOB! With the proceeds from your new job send your child to a private school like I do!
SEE HOW MUCH SENSE ALL OF THIS MAKES WHEN EXPLAINED BY A HAPPY REPUBLICAN HOUSE WIFE!
Happen You To Know That I Am Holding Down 2 Steady Jobs And Still Cannot Make Ends Meet. At Least When Clinton Was In Office Gas Was Not So High And The Healthcare System Was Better And The Schools Were Not In A Budget Crisis Now That A REPULBICAN Has Taken Over It Has Gone To Kaplooey. Republicans Care About Themselves They Don’t Care About The Innocent Or Poor As They So Claim. All They Care About Is Making Themselves Richer And The Poor Poorer. You Can Deny This But What REPUBLICAN Would Help A Poor Person???? None Of Them Would. Oh Yeah My Child To A Private Sschool You Have To Have Something Called Money Which Much Of It I Do Not Have. If You REPUBLICANS Want To Donate So I Can Send My Child To A Private Sschool I Would Be Glad To Accept Donations. But Until Then I Will Juse Stick To Making Ends Meet The Best Way I Can Until Things Change. Oh Yeah We Might Not Be Getting Smacked Around Now But Just Think Of Innocent People’s Family Who Has Lost Their Lives. Thats Why All This Is Sad. Why Did We Not Go Into Afghanistan Looking For Bin Laden Like We Was Supposed To Instead Of Going Into Iraq? This Just Does Not Make Any Sense To Me But Then Again I Guess It Never Will. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS AS IT STATES IN THE BIBLE.
**DEMOCRAT ALL THE WAY!!!!**
I hold down one steady job myself and I do good to make ends meet even though I do not have kids bills are expensive and things are not cheap.
Democrat you took the words right out of my mouth. I mean come on why is all the schools going broke and our gas is high? I don’t ever remember a school being broke or gas prices ever that high when a democrat was in office. Preach on demo.
“THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS AS IT STATES IN THE BIBLE.”
That is so very true.
Happy Republican I bet you sit around all day watching soap operas while your husband is working. Just because you sit at home and do nothing doesn’t mean that the world sits at home and does nothing some of us have something called a J-O-B that we have to go to everyday now try getting one of your own and then maybe you can be in a place to tell someone to get a job kapech.
Dear America
My guess is that we all have a J-O-B. Most people who are responding to this column have a computer, which probably means they have a job too. The people against this war are the majority, and so surely you can’t be saying that half of America is unemployed right now. Rather than continue the insults, why not answer some of the questions. No-one has yet answered any of the questions posed in this colum. Just anger(as usual) and insults. I promise you that you will get a kinder response when you try to tackle these issues. Also, at which point were you being smacked around during Clinton’s reign. All Bush has offerd you is war, and as usual it is a stupid mans response. So, can someone say, intelligently, how the U.S is safer today than it was 8 years ago. It isn’t, so the policy of invading doesn’t win friends. It recruits more and more desperate people to the cause of Al Qaeda. And this isn’t Democrate versus Republican either. As usual, life is a little more complicated than black and white, you’re eithyer with us, or against us.
Ok. Try this one. Why doesn’t Bush accuse and try Ariel Sharon as a war criminal, for the slaughter of innocents and the annexation of lands that are not Israels? Why is the response to give $4 billion each year to him? Do you not think that this is doing more harm than good to US safety? Do you not think that The Red Cross, The Red cresent, Amnesty, and the UN are right in saying that Palestine is the main recruiting ground for Al Qaeda. After all, when Iraq invaded Kuwait, you said it was wrong. It was, and the response was, I guess, correct. So why is this different in Israel. It, to me, shows a moral inconsistency which therefore make using force hard to justify.
An intelligent discussion would be welcome.
Thankyou
Jim
As a foreigner (UK), here is the point about F911. You are not able to take him to court on this, as he hasn’t told any lies. Sure, he may be saying it from his point of view, but it isn’t lies. And so.
SURELY THE STATES, WITH 258 MILLION PEOPLE CAN FIND SOMEONE BETTER THAN BUSH JR. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT SOMEONE IN OFFICE WITH ALL THESE FINANCIAL CONNECTIONS TO PROFITING FROM THE WAR, AND SAUDI OIL. wHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT. EVEN IF IT IS INNOCENT, IT SEEMS SILLY TO HAVE THIS MAN IN OFFICE, AS IT JUST DOESN’T LOOK GOOD FROM A PUBLIC RELATIONS PERSEPECTIVE ALONE.
It just looks bad. Really bad, and he therefore shouldn’t be in office. Is there really no-one in America who can be a republican leader and not have all this mud stick to him like a magnet. There has to be someone else you can all support. to the rest of the world, it just doesn’t look good. You must have someone who has a better application form than this.
He is only there because his dad was there. In other countries, they call it a dictatorship or a monarchy when son follows dad. And what are the chances of two people from the same family having the credentials for leading the world. Pretty slim.
I don’t want to be insulting in any of this, just to point out that IT JUST DOESN’T LOOK GOOD, and on that reason alone, America should be united in realising that Bush has to go, whether you are a republican or democrat. Surely the republicans can find someone better to lead their cause. If they can’t, they need to look carefully at their cause. With so many dodgy financial connections in the White House, it is impossible to win the moral high ground, even if your cause at grass roots is fair and sound.
Bush and his team has to go, because he stinks of corruption and immorality, which I am sure is not what America is about.
Kind regards
Charlie
Well I hope you did not put money on that bet as you are dead wrong. Why would you say such a thing? Did I say I sit at home all day and watch soap operas? No, you Assumed that. To imply that I do nothing is an insult and it was really unnecessary on your part.
Yes, my husband does work and BTW he is a registered Democrat. My husband provides a very good life for me and our family. I worked as an investment banker but we felt it was better that I stay at home and raise our family. Yes, we send our child to a private parochial school. Why, because we are Catholic and feel that a very good education is a foundation which our child can build on.
Please don’t knock me or my family. I would like nothing more than world peace. That said I just don’t see how that is possible when we here in the United Sates are so divided. How do we expect anyone in the world to side with us when we are all so divided?
No flames please this is just my two cents.
In response to Jim and other Left leaning folks on this board:
Please read what I wrote above in regards to war being a ‘Stupid Man’s Response.’ Please recall that someone that may be beloved to you, Bill Clinton sent troops to the Balkans in an effort to end the genocide there. Also note that Bill Clinton has said he SUPPORTS our going to Iraq, but not the timing. He stated he wished Blix had been given more time.
It’s funny, left-leaning folks on this board say they want to talk about ‘the issues,’ but when confronted with the issues, point by point, they make no effort to debate at all. So I am going to ask a series of questions to all of you who say that Bush is an idiot and the Iraq war is wrong.
1. If the invasion of Iraq leads to long term peace in the middle east and a reduction of terror attacks on the United States and its allies, what reasoning do you have for us not going?
2. If you have to choose between a few hundred dead through the violence of conflict, or tens of thousands dead through famine and murder which do you choose? If you choose the former, you support the war in Iraq. If you choose the second option, you prefer US troops stay and home while people die. So which option do you choose?
3. If Bush is such and idiot, why did multi-nation NATO release a joint statement of support of the war today? Are they all Bush’s stooges? Do you honestly believe that they are in on the ‘so called’ profiteering, as purported by people on this board and M. Moore?
4. If we aren’t doing a better job in regards to terrorism, why have there been no attacks on US soil in the last 3 years?
5. If you don’t support the war, are you comfortable with the fact that the alternative would mean that Libya, Iran, and Iraq would have continued to develop WMD? By the way, Libya has abandoned their WMD programs, Iran is facing tremendous pressure to do so, and North Korea recently agreed in principle to abandon their weapons programs in exchange for energy aid and security guarantees from the US. Why have these things come about. Because nothing compares to the political pressure of troops at your doorstep.
I have read ignorant things on this board both in support of and against the war. This post is meant for those of you on this blog that say they are against the war. You all talk loosely about how your side of the debate is inherently more intelligent and well-informed. If you feel that way about your position(s), then respond to the questions I have posed here.
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What follows is the statement from NATO today.
The United States and the European Union share a common commitment in our support for the Iraqi people and the fully sovereign Iraqi Interim Government as they build a free, secure, democratic, unified, and prosperous country, at peace with itself, its neighbors, and with the wider world. Iraq needs and deserves the strong support of the international community to realize its potential.
We applaud the unanimous approval of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1546 on Iraq, endorsing the formation of the fully sovereign Iraqi Interim Government and the political process that will lead to a democratic Iraq, and recognize it as a new basis for the international community to support the goals of the Iraqi people.
We welcome the establishment of the Iraqi Interim Government and offer our full and sustained support for its assumption of full sovereignty and for its mission to guide Iraq with the advice and support of the United Nations toward elections no later than 31 January 2005.
We express our shared commitment, and urge others, including international organizations, to support the economic and political reconstruction of Iraq, focusing on priority projects identified by the Iraqi Interim Government.
We support the continued and expansive engagement of the United Nations in Iraq after the transfer of sovereignty, as circumstances permit, with a leading role in the electoral process and the reconstruction of Iraq.
Recognizing the vital need to combat terrorism and maintain security and stability in Iraq, we support the mission of the Multinational Force for Iraq, including protection of the United Nations’ presence, in accordance with the UNSCR 1546 and the invitation of the Iraqi Interim Government. We stress the need for full respect of the Geneva Conventions. We also support the training and equipping of professional Iraqi security forces, capable of assuming increasing responsibility for the country’s security, as requested by Prime Minister Allawi.
The U.S. will use its substantial assistance to support the Iraqi people, including through critical essential services like electricity, oil industry, water resources, and sanitation, health care, transportation, and telecommunications. In addition, the U.S. will focus on continuing economic and technical assistance and establishing formal bilateral relations with Iraq.
The EU is providing assistance for the delivery of key public services, employment and poverty reduction, and strengthening governance, civil society, and human rights. The EU will launch dialogue with the Iraqi Interim Government and society and stands ready to prioritize support for the political process and elections, consider further support for the rule of law and civil administration in Iraq, use its relations with Iraq’s neighbors to encourage positive engagement and regional support for political and economic reconstruction, play a positive role in discussions of Iraq’s external debt and on trade issues, and work to enhance its representation in Iraq.
We welcome the success of the recent donors’ conference in Doha of the International Reconstruction Fund Facility for Iraq, and will work together and with key governments and organizations before the next conference in Tokyo later this year to identify ways in which the international community can continue to effectively contribute to the reconstruction of Iraq.
We pledge to provide support and assistance for the process leading to national elections for the Transitional National Assembly no later than January 31, 2005. To that end, the United States and European Union will work together, with other donors, with the Iraqi Interim Government, and in response to requests for assistance from the United Nations, which plays a leading role in the electoral process. This assistance will be fully coordinated with the Iraqi Interim Government.
We will continue to support the provision of international assistance on a bilateral basis and through the United Nations and other international organizations, with a view to responding to the needs of the Iraqi population.
We shall promote reduction of Iraq’s external debt burden, as debt reduction is critical if the Iraqi people are to have the opportunity to build a free and prosperous nation. This reduction should be provided in connection with an IMF program, and sufficient to ensure sustainability taking into account the recent IMF analysis. We encourage governments within the Paris Club, and non-Paris Club creditors, to achieve that objective in 2004.
We will support Iraq’s efforts to build a prosperous economy with a thriving private sector and an efficient public sector, attractive and open to investment, that reintegrates the country into the regional and international community, and provides for economic opportunities for all Iraqis.
To help reestablish the ties that link Iraq to the world, we will explore ways of reaching out directly to the Iraqi people as they emerge from decades of dictatorship to launch the political, social, and economic reconstruction of their nation. We will work with the Iraqi Interim Government and Iraqi civil society to strengthen democracy and respect for human rights, the rule of law, transparency, and good government.
We will encourage positive engagement and regional support from Iraq’s neighbors for the political and reconstruction process in Iraq.
If the Iraqi Interim Government decides that an international conference would support Iraqi political transition and Iraqi recovery to the benefit of the Iraqi people and the interest of stability in the region, we would welcome such a meeting.
if implying that you do no work is an insult on our part, why did you claim that people with views other than yours do no work. That too is insulting, or no? Come on, you started it. And yet again, no response on any level from the republican supporters on answering the questions. You can do better than that. So
Read some of the questions, and then provide answers to those questions. This is how this works. And if two cents is all you’ve got, how do you send your kids to private school.
Jim,
Before you go any farther with ‘republican supporters’ not answering questions and debating the issues, stop, take a minute and respond to my post above.
What I’ve posted encompasses the debate about whether we should or should not have gone. If you want to debate, then debate what I’ve stated here. Make counter points. I am tired of innuendo and ignorance on both sides. Or do all the liberals on this board only have enough information and brains to run around saying, “Bush is an idiot and this is a conspiracy about oil and profiteering.”
Let’s hear some liberals make intelligent arguments that deal with facts.
[QUOTE] Also, at which point were you being smacked around during Clinton’s reign?
Answer:
February 26, 1993, First WTC Bombing = Six people died and more than 1,000 people were injured.
Oct. 3, 1993, Somalia =18 U.S. soldiers were killed in a firefight with Somali gunmen.
June 25, 1996, The Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia = Nineteen airmen were killed and hundreds were injured by flying glass
Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania = The U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, were bombed by terrorists, leaving 258 people dead and more than 5,000 injured.
October 12, 2000, USS Cole Attack = 17 U.S. soldiers lives were taken and 39 injured
September 11, 2001, =
American Airlines Flight #11 – Boeing 767; 7:45 a.m. from Boston, MA, to Los Angeles, CA, Flight 11 slammed into the north tower of the World Trade Center
United Airlines Flight #175 – Boeing 767; 7:58 a.m. from Boston to Los Angeles, crashes into the south tower of the World Trade Center and explodes
United Airlines Flight #93 – Boeing 757; 8:01 a.m. from Newark, NJ, to San Francisco, CA United Airlines Flight 93, also hijacked, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh.
American Airlines Flight #77 – Boeing 757; 8:10 a.m. from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles crashes into the Pentagon.
Over 3,000 people losts their lives that day.
I sincerely hope that my response answers your question.
Dear John
You said – 1. If the invasion of Iraq leads to long term peace in the middle east and a reduction of terror attacks on the United States and its allies, what reasoning do you have for us not going?
This is not AN ISSUE FOR LONG TERM PEACE IN THE mIDDLE EAST. If that was the case, people like Ariel Sharon would be removed, and the focus would be on solving the Palestine question. Prior to 1983, when Saddam came to power with US support, Palestine was the destabilising issue. It still is, and so this is not the way to bring peace to the Middle east. Further more, the Arab nations don’t like the US influence in their countries, and indeed, why should they. This is along way away from you, and should be nothing to do with you. For example, Saudi Arabian people have been trying to overthrow their democracy for a while, as it is very rich, but has the poorest and most downtrodden populace of the region. But America support the Royal Family with weapons to keep them in power. The US influence is seen as an invasion, and to be honest, it is. They want you to keep out of their affairs because nothing is done for alltruistic reasons and to pretend it is is just foolish. Like Iraq, it was done for oil, money, and if democracy is our goal here, then why don’t we overthrow the Saudi Royal Family. For that matter why did we reinstate the Kuwaiti government, another dictatorship. There is no altruism here. And I equally don’t think that this invasion has stopped terrorism attacks, do you? There is more terrorism than ever before, and still no Osama. One dodgy old guy, on dialysis in a cave. Here is my guess. He’s already caught, but he is worth more to the States on the run than he is captured. It justifies more killings.
So, if bringing peace to the Middle East is the aim, killing innocent civilians is no way to do it. Solving Israeli attacks will do it, and it won’t be done by sending $4billion a year to them.
2. I said – Point two is a joke. My neighbour is in a land dispute with me, so to solve years of wrangling, I should just kill him. You can’t play God, and if it was your family who were lost, then you would have a different opinion. Without being there, you can’t say that you would be prepared to sacrifice them, or yourself. The sanctions on Iraq killed 500,000 people over 10 years. An unimaginable figure. My solution is not kill more people, but stop the sanctions. It is a very unchristian thought to say that killing solves issuues. It doesn’t. The only defence of that is if someone invades your home. No-one did that, except the Americans invading Iraq. Ethiopia has lots of starvation. If we were to nuke em all, there would be no more starvation. It doesn’t really make sense. please think more rationally, instead of playing God with peoples lives.
You said – 3. If Bush is such and idiot, why did multi-nation NATO release a joint statement of support of the war today? Are they all Bush’s stooges? Do you honestly believe that they are in on the ‘so called’ profiteering, as purported by people on this board and M. Moore?
They haven’t supported the war. They have supported “the hand over of power to an interim Iraqi government. If NATO had supported it, it would have been done under NATO. They didn’t so you went on it alone in true internationally democratic style. Today NATO approved the hand over of power and the continuation of troops to see the hand over is successful. It was not an endorsement of the war.
You said – 4. If we aren’t doing a better job in regards to terrorism, why have there been no attacks on US soil in the last 3 years?
I said – Over the passed three years, terrorism attacks have gone up globally by 1400%, from Unesco figures. This was stated as a global response to American Imperialism and heavy handed tactics, and the continuation of Israeli insurgency destabilising the middle east.
You never had terrorism anyway until Sept 11th (bar the previous attack on the WTC). However, your actions are putting the rest of us in danger, as the attacks are on America civilians and their allies whilst they are in other countries. Sure, no attacks on US soil, but the world is bigger than that. Just look at Iraq today, yesterday, tomorrow. Terrorism against US Imperialism. But I guess those lives don’t really matter, as they are not on US soil? If it does matter that ANY lives are lost, why make the distinction between US soil, and foreign soil? World wide, terrorism is on the up big time, and it is a response to US bullyboy tactics.
Point 5. Korea agreed nothing of the sort today. They agreed to talk about it. Libya achieved their agreement through trade agreements, and Iran are pretty much not developing anything. Just like Iraq weren’t. Fissile material is highly detectable, even from outter space. We knew they weren’t and aren’t. And how about US nuclear weapons. Are you going to get rid of yours. “We can have them and you can’t” just sucks as big bully boy ignorant tactics. And don’t say that we only have them as a threat, as the US are the only nation to have ever used them. Twice. The second time to just confirm the first one was that big. This is how the world sees us, so how do you expect them to react. I know you wouldn’t look kindly on such people if it was the other way around. War is a form of defence not a foreign policy. Any christian country who believes in the word of peace knows that. And if you don’t, then you don’t believe in the words of peace, and are therefore unchristian.
Ultimately, we all want peace in Iraq. Of course we do. But killing people to do it just breeds more violence, and I for one don’t believe that Iraq will be stable for many years. Far more deaths have occured everyday whilst we put sanctions on Iraq and have invaded their soil, than anytime when Saddam was in power alone. Yes, he’s an asshole, and we are all glad he is gone, but not by the killing of the innocents. A bad situation has just been made much worse.
You must have better solutions than “well, we’ll kill you, and destroy that, and that will solve it”. It doesn’t solve it.
I hate Saddam Hussain (as does everybody), and I believe in democracy. But if I had to pull my children out of a building, looking for their limbs, and trying to put their brain back into their skull, or shove their eyes back in their sockets so they can look at them with some dignity, I would not welcome you at all. Who knows, I may believe in terrorism as an answer. What else would I have to lose. My children are dead. And who could blame me. It is all very well saying that such people should be pleased because they are liberated now, but the situation was never as bad as that to warrant such a response. Yes he killed lots of his own people, but then so have we. we have no moral high ground on him at all, and no better alternative to offer them now other than years and years of terrorism. And what was it about anyway. It moves from day to day. First WMD, which they didn’t have, to now being “well, we’ve liberated them”. I am sorry, but most Iraqi’s DON’T feel liberated, and are just more fearful. They are so scared now anyway, that they will say anything you want them to say. Any critisism of Iraq is critisism of ourselves, and we should stop treating war as nothing more than a foreign policy tactic. This war was not about defending ourselves. We attacked them on their soil, unprovoked.
My goodness, don’t alot of people hate America. I wonder where you lot go on holiday? oh yeah, to mexico.
Laura, why do peole hate you so much? Could it be that you have a military presence in these countries? For fuck sake, what are you doing there? It is imperialism, full stop.
Somalia wasn’t terrorism either, they were soldiers defending their own soil. They have a right to do that. And you retreated pretty quick, and that was the end of it. It is all pretty much against your military, which despite having big guns and no tact, are not like the terrorists, because we are nice guys who believe in peace. Get stuffed. You only woke up to this when it was your soil that was bombed, and then it was “Al Qaeda, who are they”. The rest of us knew who they were, but you were too busy watching Gladiators.
Dear John
I said that saudi Arabia was a democracy in point one. I meant to say dictatorship. sorry about that,
Look forward to your response
Wishing you peace
Charlie
[QUOTE]My goodness, don’t alot of people hate America. I wonder where you lot go on holiday? oh yeah, to mexico.
Laura, why do peole hate you so much? Could it be that you have a military presence in these countries? For fuck sake, what are you doing there? It is imperialism, full stop.
Somalia wasn’t terrorism either, they were soldiers defending their own soil. They have a right to do that. And you retreated pretty quick, and that was the end of it. It is all pretty much against your military, which despite having big guns and no tact, are not like the terrorists, because we are nice guys who believe in peace. Get stuffed. You only woke up to this when it was your soil that was bombed, and then it was “Al Qaeda, who are they”. The rest of us knew who they were, but you were too busy watching Gladiators. [QUOTE]
Posted by: David at June 26, 2004 07:27 PM
Answer:
People hate what they fear the most. I just got back from vacation (only Europeans call it Holiday) which was a wonderful 10 day cruise. Oh and speaking of Holiday did your grandparents survive the disaster last year in Europe? While most of you ingrates where on Holiday the news here in the Sates reported about 10,000 of the elderly died due to the intense heat. Have you ever heard of air conditioners?
Laura
Dear Laura,
it is funny how happily you still cruise around, answer the questions instead of starting a new question, and bitching about holiday or vacation (because everyone including you understood it) bitching about those things just tells me that you want to provocate and that probably because you are angry, as you were 1st time attacked on your on soil. I would be too, but then again, you guys provoced it, so you shouldn’t have been that surprised, and then if Bush is sooo good, why didn’t he it coming and not able to avoid it? Or maybe he did, and let it happen, to justify some other strategies, like war, as it seems pretty much to me.
Stop insulting for nothing and discuss the topics for finding a solution, please.
Sorry for telling you this, but talking about the word holiday or vacation is not that important is it?
sorry for missing some words in the text above, thought faster than my typing…
sorry for missing some words in the text above, thought faster than my typing…
Dear Laura
How are you? I hope you are just fine. Yeah, I lost tow grandparents during that heat wave. I am sorry if my answers are miss spelling, but I am French, and so Enlish is not first language.
Yes, My great Aunt, ad my Grandfather both died during that heat wave. They lived in a place called Bourgadouis, near in the Paule, near Carhaix in Bretagne and loved it there. It is just big open fields and forest with local farmer. We had asked them two on many ocasions to come and live with us at either Lyons (where my brother lives), or Paris (where I live), but they would have none of it at any. My grandpa (JP) was a lover of the world outside, and spent his time building dry stones walls. Even at 89, he would not have it any way. Unfortunately, the calcite on the water well had formed a barrier, and had prevented the water from coming through the pipe, but leaked into the rock, and not the tap. They have no phones where they live, and it horrifies me to think how they were able to not contact, but please please please do believe me, they would no had it any other way. They loved the isolation, and the land around them, and knew that they were away from the outside world. That is why they were there. I am so sorry if the heat wave caused so much death, but what could have done. My sister was to visit on many occasions, and they spent christmas at our home in Paris every year. He was a funny man, and laughed at the people who lived in the towns.
As a French person, I am sorry that our countrys are at offence with the other, but nobody here really cares. I am sure that you are a good country, and wish everything that is big around. My friend emailed me and asked me to reply to you, and I had, so I hope that you could write aback. Sorry to upset anyone. I wish all things get better
Panella
Aurevois, Panella.
Dear Laura
Yeah, we’ve heard of air conditioners. Have you heard of global warming, or is that what what fat lardy arsed husband does to your ever growing backside once a month. In fact maybe it is the milkman. Listening to people like you makes me wish the fight against cancer would stop. I hope you get it, you fucked up bitch.
Is it me, or does gang rape sound too good for this bitch
A. Republican
Is it me, or does gang rape sound too good for this bitch?
No I think Loura is fine besides I think they will be tired after finishing up with Yoh Mama and Yoh Sisters!
ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Laura
Where did your cruise ship go? Cancun, Playa del Carmen, the Caymens, Cosumel and the Bahamas. Wow, you must feel really worldly wise.
I bet you even met some local barbarians and savages in an un-natural situation. Way to go girl.
Dear Americans
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. Die die die die die die die die die die die die die die3 died, dead, fuck off and rot, I will kill you all, you heathen muther fuckers
kind Regards
Osama
Dear Laura
Are you the same one whose long distant relative had a medal for butchering. God, it runs in your family huh. Ultimately, it isn’t you fighting, and I know you would shit your pants and run if it was. This site is full of idiots saying that they are knowledgable about war because they once knew someone who went to war in a video game or the like. Unless you’ve been yourself, shut your big fat stupid gob you assholes. You are so happy to send others to fight except yourselves. Infidels, enemy of God. You think you tough guy huh. I’m pinching you huh, and trancing you with my catlike moves.
Mr. Abdul al halal al bin al lahahalarda lal Abrahim
CAN YOU TAKE YOUR DICK OUT OF YOUR CAMELS MOUTH? YOU USELESS SACK OF SHIT CAMEL JOCKEY.
BOY YOU MUST BE A PRETTY BIG MAN TO TALK LIKE THAT TO A GIRL. OH I FORGOT YOU MUSLIMS TREAT ALL WOMAN LIKE YOUR MOTHER. AFTER YOUR MOM IS DONE BLOWING THE FAMILY SEND HER MY WAY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM TREATING YO MAMA LIKE THE WHORE THAT SHE IS.
HABA HABA HABA
To the name callers on the board (though I have used the word ‘liberals). Please grow up. It’s an internet website. Put the latte down or whatever it is that raises your blood pressure to name calling levels. It’s ridiculous.
Dear John
Looks like it is you and me, mate. You don’t call me a heathen enemy of God, and I won’t ask you to put various parts of your anatomy inside of a camel. Put the kettle on, mine’s a latte, and hope fully we’ll carry on where we left off
Kind regards
Charlie
Dear John
It is interesting to go back to the origin of this website, and read a few mails.
Lets get a few things straight. Islamist extremists are cleverer than we think, unfortunately. They get maximum exposure for the minimum of casualties by parading them on video being killed, which eventually makes everyone who sees it VERY anti islamist. That is what they want us to feel. Yes, they are bastards. But we have killed lots more of them than they have of us, we just haven’t seen the footage of these individuals. I am sure it won’t be nice (bits of brain, severed arms etc etc)
How much do you think though, that the US troops humiliating prisoners at Abu Gharib prison on video has contributed to this? It is just a question, and does need addressing.
Paul Johnson was building Apache helicopters. Sure, a profession at home, but in Saudi Arabia, isn’t this the risk that people run. Does this make him more of a legitimate target than, say, an oil worker.
The point of this is to point out that we need to look what we are doing here, and the obvious reaction it is provoking. Saudi Arabia IS VERY anti American, because we have supported their corrupt and over powerful regime for too long. I am sort of fed up with our citizens thinking that we are disliked “for no good reason”. They have good reasons for being hateful towards us, and should we not address these instead of answering everything with more bombs and rhetoric? Saudi Arabia is a pure family run dictatorship, hateful to its own people, able to stay in power because of US money and weapons. They are actually very very close to being overthrown, so much do their own citizens want to get rid of their own Royal Family (about 95% of the population hate them, and this is a huge worry for the US – possibly we will have to intervene here if it does to prop up a dictatorship – very embarrassing). Why are we supporting this dictatorship, as well as the one in Kuwait (they too torture their own people), and yet invade Iraq to apparently liberate them and give them democracy. You have to admit, it does stink. It is just not consistent is it.
Some will say it is because Saddam wouldn’t play ball in the oil game, and if that is true, surely the individuals are going to hate us for stealing their own resources and bombing them for it?
If Pauls death appauled us so much, and we want it to stop, we need to get our shit together, and stop bullying this region. If not, then we can expect more. To find solutions in this, we must stop thinking that we are totally innocent here, that we don’t kill their citizens with bombs dropped from far away, that we don’t support dictatorships, that we are not securing their oil for our use. After all, if you walked into a house at the end of your street, just walked in, screwed the wife, took cookies from the cookie jar, took their tv remote control, and came home, you could hardly say “Jes, those barstards from down the road have scratched my car. Christ they make me sick, they are disgusting”. Well, you can say that, but who is going to support you. No-one, and this is why the world doesn’t support us here.
Our foreign policy to the middle east is wrong. We have bought them dictators (Saddam, Saudi Arabis, Bin Laden) and solved their problems with war, which is perpetual, and stated claim to their oil. It is no wonder that they hate us, and wish we would leave, and who can blame them. If someone did that to my country, I would be angry too, and even angrier when the US say “why are they so angry, what have we done?”
These are just questions, but to move this website forward, they need to be intelligently addressed.
I look forward to your reply
Charlie
Stay off the drugs Panella, they are not good for you. You are on the wrong site!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear John
I would like to mention one more thing. First, I am not trying to provoke you here at all, and thank you for being the only rational responder on this site. We both want the killing to stop. I assume. It would be silly to think we didn’t. It is just about how much you want it to stop, and that means how far we are prepared to go to get this. I am prepared to accept our obvious blame, and then to re adjust our foreign policy. War is a last option in the defence of our nation, not a first option in our foreign policy. September 11th was what happened BECAUSE of our foreign policy to the Middle East, and did not happen in isolation. I am not a believer in God, Allah or anything like that. But do believe my self to be a christian man. It always seems to me that the most religious people are the ones too keen to see blood spilt. An oxymoron in our society if ever there was one.
I am signing off for the day, and do look forward to your responses.
Have a nice day, and peace be with you
Charlie
Dear John
Ijust printed this out from the website above.
Terrorists are going to continue to try and kill us as long as we have ANY interests whatsoever in the middle east. With that in mind, for the pacifists on this board, I assume you’d rather have inflation at 10%, unemployment in the same range, Saddam Hussein murdering innocent people every year, Libya, Iran, Iraq, & Al-Qaeda free to create WMD as they please WITH THE INTENT OF KILLING ALL OF US, and an energy crisis, vs. having troops on the ground that have gotten rid of Saddam, pressured the afore mentioned country’s to abandon WMD, & that allow us to have a stable economy and energy supplies.
I agree. terrorism will continue with our current policy.
As I said, how far are you prepared to go for peace. I will put up with this economic crisis, but can’t support the killing of innocents. Murder is wrong. That is it, and you can’t have a situation that says “murder is wrong, but …………….”. No but, its wrong. For whatever the gain. Murder is wrong. Do you agree?
Kind regards
Charlie
Dear John
Just located.This is the news we get in Europe, which is much closer to the NMiddle east than yourself. i can get you much more if you wish.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm
The first two minutes are in Dutch, the rest of the 45 minutes are in German. Oue english is good. Tell me what you think?
YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN LOVED BY ANYONE AS A CHILD. YOUR ARE SUCH AN ANGRY LITTLE PERSON THAT SCREAMS AT WOMAN. FIRST LORA AND NOW PANELLA. WHY DON’T YOU MAKE AN EFFORT TO LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING YOU ALL THIS ANGER. MAYBE ONCE YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED THAN YOU CAN MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE A BETTER (NOT BITTER) PERSON.
Charlie,
I haven’t had a chance to thoughtfully respond to your posts. I agree with a good deal of what you have to say. You’re dutch? I have had a lot of fun in Den Haag (North Sea Jazz Fest) & Amsterdam.
I will try and reply later this evening.
JOhn
Well today I read that the iraqi’s are in charge of their own government now hopefully our troops will be coming home soon. I hate turning on the news and hearing that another person has died because of this war. If I offended anyone by my statements or anything I did not mean any of it I am truly sorry I should not be acting that way as an american it only made me look ignorant. I just get tired of turning on the news and seeing or even hearing about death. I was under the anon name yahoo email and the demo all the way name.
Anonymous writer … if you tone down the CAPS and eliminate SOME vulgarity, you may get people to think what you say comes from educated sources.
Not all Americans think like you. Why tarnish our reputation any more with your capitalized vulgarity and hatred.
Posted by: Derek at June 20, 2004 05:15 PM
Derek this is a free country you know. Just because you are not capable of handling such intelligence language doesn’t give you the rights to tell anyone to use caps or not try looking at your own faults before mind and might I suggest this world would be a much better place if people like you would mind your “OWN” business instead of worrying about what someone else does. It seems like that is the problem with the world today, Most people are worried about what the other person does instead of worrying about their own business. I have enough to deal with without worrying about someone else’s business or what they do. So derek before you tell me anything all Im saying is “Check Yourself”. Kapeche
(quote)Stay off the drugs Panella, they are not good for you. You are on the wrong site!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: annonymous at June 27, 2004 01:39 PM
Derek this is a free country you know. Just because you are not capable of handling such intelligence language doesn’t give you the rights to tell anyone to use caps or not try looking at your own faults before mind and might I suggest this world would be a much better place if people like you would mind your “OWN” business instead of worrying about what someone else does. It seems like that is the problem with the world today, Most people are worried about what the other person does instead of worrying about their own business. I have enough to deal with without worrying about someone else’s business or what they do. So derek before you tell me anything all Im saying is “Check Yourself”. Kapeche
Posted by: anonymous at June 29, 2004 11:28 AM (quote)
Dear Mr. Anonymous (as well as your many alias),
The following message was addressed to YOU! Why do you have to be so negative. Sign off your computer and go out and get some sun. You are by the far the angriest nastiest person I have ever encountered on the internet. If you can have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread than leave. Also, I think you should heed some good advice my parents taught me as a child, “If you do not have anything nice to say than do not say anything at all.”
Sick of Anonymous
Original Message for you:
YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN LOVED BY ANYONE AS A CHILD. YOUR ARE SUCH AN ANGRY LITTLE PERSON THAT SCREAMS AT WOMAN. FIRST LORA AND NOW PANELLA. WHY DON’T YOU MAKE AN EFFORT TO LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING YOU ALL THIS ANGER. MAYBE ONCE YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED THAN YOU CAN MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE A BETTER (NOT BITTER) PERSON.
Posted by: annonymous too at June 27, 2004 07:59 PM
Dear Mr. Anonymous (as well as your many alias),
The following message was addressed to YOU! Why do you have to be so negative. Sign off your computer and go out and get some sun. You are by the far the angriest nastiest person I have ever encountered on the internet. If you can have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread than leave. Also, I think you should heed some good advice my parents taught me as a child, “If you do not have anything nice to say than do not say anything at all.”
Sick of Anonymous
Original Message for you:
YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN LOVED BY ANYONE AS A CHILD. YOUR ARE SUCH AN ANGRY LITTLE PERSON THAT SCREAMS AT WOMAN. FIRST LORA AND NOW PANELLA. WHY DON’T YOU MAKE AN EFFORT TO LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING YOU ALL THIS ANGER. MAYBE ONCE YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED THAN YOU CAN MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE A BETTER (NOT BITTER) PERSON.
Posted by: annonymous too at June 27, 2004 07:59 PM
Posted by: Sick of Anonymous at June 30, 2004 04:58 AM
Hmmmm looks like the truth hurts don’t it. Looks like you got all mad at me when I was just making a statement see if your name is not derek then I was not referring to you. But you just cannot keep out of other people’s business. I do get plenty of sunshine a day in fact I probably get more sunshine than you do. If the truth is known. Negative where do you get I am being negative? This is a free board and I am allowed to freedom of speech and if you do not like what I post then don’t read it because no one is asking you or putting a gun to your head making you read my articles. I was loved by many as a child and I am still loved by many now just because you wasn’t loved and lived off of the government for your next meal is no excuse to take it out on the next person and be so hostile towards them. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE MY WORDS OF WISDOM AS I PREFER TO CALL THEM THEN DON’T READ THEM DUMBASS BECAUSE NO ONE IS PULLING YOUR STUPID CHAIN AND FORCING YOU TO READ IT.
[QUOTE] Also, at which point were you being smacked around during Clinton’s reign?
Answer:
February 26, 1993, First WTC Bombing = Six people died and more than 1,000 people were injured.
Oct. 3, 1993, Somalia =18 U.S. soldiers were killed in a firefight with Somali gunmen.
June 25, 1996, The Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia = Nineteen airmen were killed and hundreds were injured by flying glass
Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania = The U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, were bombed by terrorists, leaving 258 people dead and more than 5,000 injured.
October 12, 2000, USS Cole Attack = 17 U.S. soldiers lives were taken and 39 injured
George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn into office January 20, 2001
September 11, 2001, =
American Airlines Flight #11 – Boeing 767; 7:45 a.m. from Boston, MA, to Los Angeles, CA, Flight 11 slammed into the north tower of the World Trade Center
United Airlines Flight #175 – Boeing 767; 7:58 a.m. from Boston to Los Angeles, crashes into the south tower of the World Trade Center and explodes
United Airlines Flight #93 – Boeing 757; 8:01 a.m. from Newark, NJ, to San Francisco, CA United Airlines Flight 93, also hijacked, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh.
American Airlines Flight #77 – Boeing 757; 8:10 a.m. from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles crashes into the Pentagon.
Over 3,000 people losts their lives that day.
I sincerely hope that my response answers your question.
Posted by: Laura at June 26, 2004 06:49 PM
Yes laura that is sad but if you look at when clinton left office and when bush was elected in office.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/12/iraq/main616901.shtml
Does anyone notice the difference in those pictures of nick? In my opinion the top one does not bear any resemblence to the photo located at the bottom which is nick in an undated photo. And also look at the one on http://www.findagrave.com the photo on nicks grave site and look at the one on the cbs website. They just don’t look anything alike. I was wondering if anyone else noticed this?
To the name callers on the board (though I have used the word ‘liberals). Please grow up. It’s an internet website. Put the latte down or whatever it is that raises your blood pressure to name calling levels. It’s ridiculous.
Posted by: john at June 27, 2004 08:29 AM
John its all kinds of people not just liberals, republicans or democrats its all kinds
Dear Americans
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. Die die die die die die die die die die die die die die3 died, dead, fuck off and rot, I will kill you all, you heathen muther fuckers
kind Regards
Osama
Posted by: osama at June 27, 2004 03:20 AM
Excuse me for my language people. I would like to find this beligerent moron who is behind that name and slap him across his face until he pissed in his trousers. Just look at what america has been through and you have the nerve to put that name on here trying to breed more hatred but it is not going to work I suggest you go to yahoo fight rooms for that. Thank You Very Much.
Dear Laura
Yeah, we’ve heard of air conditioners. Have you heard of global warming, or is that what what fat lardy arsed husband does to your ever growing backside once a month. In fact maybe it is the milkman. Listening to people like you makes me wish the fight against cancer would stop. I hope you get it, you fucked up bitch.
Is it me, or does gang rape sound too good for this bitch
A. Republican
Posted by: A. Republican at June 27, 2004 01:57 AM
Is it me, or does gang rape sound too good for this bitch?
No I think Loura is fine besides I think they will be tired after finishing up with Yoh Mama and Yoh Sisters!
ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: A Republican Too at June 27, 2004 02:48 AM
Why don’t you guys take your negative thoughts somewhere else. No one on this site is in the mood for it.
WHEN RUSSIAN ACCUPIED AFGHANISTAN; ;THEY FAUGHT FIERCLY TO DEFEND THIER COUNTRY;AMERICA ALLIED WITH AFGHANS FREEDOM FIGHTERS AND AND RECRUTED ALL MUSLIMS ARROUND THE WORLD TO DEFEAT RUSSIANS ;PUMPING LOT OF MONEY ;GUNS :MORAL SUPPORT WITH THE HELP OF ALL MUSLIM DICTATORS ;AMERICANS DIDNT CALLED THESE AFGHAN AND MUSLIM FIGHTERS AS TERRORISTS ;WITH THE HELP OF ALL DICTATORS;IN REGION AND SUPPORT PROJECTED AT HOME FRONT ;THIS AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR ALL FREEDOM FIGHTERS WAS A IMMPORTANT FACTOR IN LAYIND FOUNDATION FOR MODERN TALIBAN THAT AMERICA IS AFRAID OF NOW;
AMERICA ALLWAY HAS GI`VEN SUPORT TO ALL COUNTRIES WHEN ACCUPIED OR SUPRESSED BY UN FRIENDLY STATE;AMERICA HAS TRAINED MUSLIME AND TALIBANS HOW TO DEFEND THE THE FREEDOM;AGAINST AN AGRESSER;SO IRAKI ARE NO EXCEPTION;SO THEY ARE DEFENDING THIER COUNTRY AGAINST AGAINST ODDS ;AND AMERICAN ACCUPATION;THIS AMERICAN ACCUPATION OF ANOTHER COUNTRY ON THE BASSIS OF LIES AND BENDING FACTS IC GIVEN SO MUCH PUBLICITY TO GET AMERICAN CITIZEN SUPORT; SHOWS HOW GULABLE ARE AMERICANS;TO SUPPORT THESE WAR FOR OIL AND REVENG JUST LIKE AMERICAN WERE FOOLED TO SUPORT BINLADINAND MANY MUSLIMS AGAINST RUSSIANS ACCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN:;TURNED TO A GREAT BLUNDER ;AND NOW NIGHTMARE FOR AMERICANS THAT. DAY AND NIGHT THEY HAVE TO ON GAURDS AGAINST EVERYBODY AT HOME AND ABROAD:AMERICA IS PAYING THE PRICE FOR TRAINING SO CALLELL TERRORIST AND BINLADIN AGAINST RUSSIANS IN EARLY 90s;AMERICAN ARE DOING SAME BLUNDER TO GO TO IRAK TO SHOW THE WORLD HOW MUCH THEY LOVE IRAKIS;WHILE NO IRAK LEADER IS ALLOWED TO TALK ON CAMERA;;EVERY DAY HUNDREDS OR RAID TAKE PLACE HOUSE TO HOUSE AND THE FATHER BEING KILLED BY AMERICANS;WHEN ONE AMERICAN DIES TGHAT IS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION;NOTHING IS BEING MENTIONED HOW MANY IRAKIS ARE BEING KILLED AND TAKEN BLIND FOLDED &HANDCUFFED EVERY DAY;THAT PROVOKING MORE ANTI AMERICAN ATTITUDE AMONG IRAKIS;AMERICANS WANT TO HAVE IT EASY THAT IRAKIS SHOULS NOT FIGHT AMERICANS;IRAKIS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND THIER COUNTRY;JUST LIKE AMERICAN HAVE RIGHT TO GO MILLIONS OF MILES TO DEFEND THIER COUNTRY:IRAKIS ARE ARABS AND OVER ALL MUSLIMS;THEY CANT BE FOOLED EASY AS AMERICANS ARE FOOLING EROPEAN AND AT HOME BY MULTIMEDIA:PRACTICALLY IT WILL BE VERY DIFICULT SELL FOR AMERICANS TO TELL THAT AMERICAN CARE FOR THEM;IRAKIS ARE NOT SO DUM;IRAKIS KNOW AMERICA HAS DONE NOTHING FOR ARABS AND MUSLIMS;INSTED AMERICAN HAVE ONLY MADE PROBLEMS WITH ARAB AND MUSLIM COUNTRIEY BY SUPORTING ISRAEL S ACCUPATION OF PALASTINIANS LAND &SUFFERING OF PALASTINIANS UNDER ACCUPATION;AND SUPORTING SADAM HUSAIN WITH WEAPONS WHEN SADAM AS AMERICAN FRIEND, WAS INVADIND IRAN AND GASSING KURDS WITH AMERICAN HELP ;WHILE THAT TIME(1978-90)sadm was Americas good boy &FIGHTING AMERICAN WARS IN MIDDLE EAST WITH AMERIAN GUNS AND AMERICAN FLAG ON IRAKI OIL TANKERS;AS SAME WHEN NEEDED FRIEND OF AMERICA AT REGAN ERA WAS DROPPED AFTER DOING AMERICAN DIRTY WAR & massecre job,JUST LIKE EX GOOD FRIEND BINLADIN AFTER BEING TRAINED AND USED BY AMERICA AND THEN DROPED ;.
NOW JUST LIKE AMERICAN BUILT UP TALIBAN AGANST RUSSIANS; AND FEEL SORRY ABOUT;NOW THEY BUILDING NEW IRAKI ARMY AGANST UNKNOWN ENEMY;(IN AMERICAN MEDIA TO PROTECT IRAKIS) BUT ONE SHOULD ASK AGAINST WHO ? THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE FOR IRAKIS AND REST OF THE WORLD;THIS NES IRAKI ARMY WITH AMERICAN GUN WILL TURN AGAINST AMERICA SOONER THAN LATTER;
THESE WARS WIL TAKE AMERICA NO WHERE BUT MORE BLOOD SHED FOR AMERICAN AND FOR PROJECTED ADVARSARY BY MEDIA BY BUSH; WHOSE ARROGANCE AND MILITARY PRIDE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN HITLERS;AMERICAN MUST THINK COOL THAT AMERICANS ARE NO ANGELS;;JUST LIKE HITLER WAS SO STRONG ;WITH POWERFUL MILITARY FOUGHT AGAINST REST OF WORLD;HITLER SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HE WAS NO ANGEL AND HIS INTENTIONS DUE TO HIS MALLICE OF POWER JUST LIKE BUSH;;EVEN IF HITLER WOLD HAVE WON THE WAR ;DOES NOT MEAN ;WHAT EVER HE DID HE WAS RIGHT*
SIMILARLY BUSHS AMERICA MUST HAVE CONSCIENCE JUST BECAUSE HE IS SUPER POWER AND NOT LOOSING WARS LIKE HITLER ;DOES NOT MEAN HE(AMERICA) IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND THINGS HAVE GONE BAD ENOUGH THAT SPRIT OF AMERICAS FOUNDING FATHERS HAS VANISHED REPLACED BY ARROGANCE AND MALLICE OF POWER AND IN SEARCH OF CHEAP OIL TO SACRIFICE SIMPLE SOLDERS WHO SHOULD BE WITH THIER DEAR FAMILY NOT KILLING IRAKIS OR BEING KILLED BY IRAKIS;
ONLY WAY LESSER AMERICANS WILL BE KILLED IN IRAK AMARICAN MUST PROVE THAT AMERICAN CARE ABOUT ARABS BY TAKING STEPS SPACIALLY PRESSURING ISRAEL TO END THE ACCUPATION OF PALASTINIANS AREAS;AND BLAMING ISRAEL FOR THE HATE CULTURE BECAUSE OF ACCUPATION;AND FORCE ISRAEL THAT SO CALLED TERRORISM IS DIRECT CAUSE OF ACCUPATION AND SUFFERING MASSES ;BY KILLING EVERY DAY SO MANY PALASTINIANS THAT DEVELOPS MORE HATE;AND REVENGE AGAINST ISRAEL AND VICE VERSA:
THAN IRAKIS AND ARABS BELIEVE THAT AMERICA HAS DONE NOT ONE GOOD THING FOR SUFFERING PALASTINIANS. SO ALL ARABS WILL BE FREINDS OF AMERICA AND NO MORE FEAR FROM EACH OTHER:IF AMERICA PRESSURE ISRAEL TO WITHDRAW FROM ACCUPIED TERITORIES.TO LET THE ACCUPIED MASSES TO BREATH FREE:
TO STAMP IRAKIS WITH TERRORISM AS THEY HAVE RIGHT TO DEFEND AGANST ACCUPIES OR CALL ALL MUSLIMS TERRORISTS IS JUST LIKE CALLIN G AMERICAN FOUNDING FATHERS;ieJEFERSON; WASHINGTON; JOHN ADAMS AS TERRORISTS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE FREE FROM BRITISH ACCUPATION AND COLONY;
AMERICA SHOULD THINK OF FUTURE WITH LOT OF DIFFERENT CHELLENGES WHICH WILL HAVE NOTHING TO WITH THIS OVER BLOWN TERRORISM; BUT EMERGING POWERS LIKE CHINA ;RUSSIA FORMER SOVIET STATES AMERICAN MAY NEED MUSLIMS AND ARABS WITH AMERICAN TRANING LIKE GOOD DAYS WHEN AMERICAN SUPORTED UPRISING AGAINST RUSSIANS ACCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN;TO DEFEAT RUSSIA ;IT IS FOR SURE AMERICA WILL NEED MUSLIM DYING FOR AMERICAN CAUSE;SO A WISE AMERICA YOU MAY NEED TALIBAN BACK ON YOUR SIDE BEFORE AMERICAN TRAINED ARMY OF IRAK TURNS AGAINST AMERICANS ITSELF AND BEFORE THREAT COMES FROM CHINA OR EVERY DIRECTION BECAUSE AMERICAN DO THINGS TO MAKE THEM SELVES HATED;
WORLD IS NOT THE HOSTAGE TO TERRORISM BUT THE ACCUPATION & SUPERPOWERS SUPPORT FOR ACCUPATION ARE PRIMERY FACTOR OF TERRORISM;
FAIR PEACE IN MIDDLE EAST IS IMPORTANT FACTOR IN OVERCOMMING TERRORISM REACH TO PEACE AND STABLITY;
AMERICAN SHOULD WIN THE HEARTS OF MASSES WHO THEY HAVE SUPRESSED SO LONG DUE TO MALLICE OF POWER; WAR AND SELLING WEAPONE WILL ONLY MAKE WORLD A DANGEROUS PLACE WITH SUPERPOWER WARS AND MANUPLATED MEDIA ;
WAR AS A DRUG TO KEEP PEOPLE BUSSY AT THE TIME OF ECCONOMICAL STAGNATION;THE IS WHAT BUSH PLAN IS ;
AMERICA CAN ONLY GAT STRONG BY INVESTING MONEY ON EDUCATION ;HEALTH;ON ITS OWN SUFFERING MASSES, INSTEAD OF MAKING MURDEROUS ARMY WITH HIGH TECH OUT OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND UNEMPLOYED:
MANY MURDERS ARE FREED FROM PRISONS TO JOIN ARMY TO DOTHE KILLING IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAK ;AND LIKE LONG OGO IN VIETNAM WHO DID AMERICAN NO WRONG:
AMERICA PROFESSIONALY GOOD TO MAKE ENEMIES INSTEAD MAKING FRIENDS:DUE TO ARROGANCE:;ONE TIME THEY HAVE TO FACE THE WREST OF WORLD LIKE HITLER:I HOPE IT DOES NOT GO THAT FAR; HOPE AMERICA TURNS BACK AND BE INTRUMENT OF LOVE WITH STRENGTH;TO BE FAIR AND JUST FULL;BUT NOT A VAGABOND OR FUGITIVE STATE ; AND LIVE WITH THE RULE WHICH IT ASKS OTHERS TO ABIDE;AS WE ALL ARE CREATED EQUAL AND SAME;
ALL IRAKIS SHOULD STAY VIGILANT AGAINST ACCUPIER ;AS ACCUPIER HAS MANY PLANS;DIRTY COVERTS ACTIONS ALL MUSLIMS;TO DIVIDE TO RULE THEM;TO POISON AGAINST;TO ELMINATE ANYONE WHO STAYS IN THIER WAY; ie SHIA CLERICAL OR SUNIS OR UNO ;CORRESPONDENTS;AND BLAMING ON IRAKIS ;WITH THE HELP OF ISRAELIS PERSONALS IN AMERICAN ARMY BECAUSE ISRAEL HAVE KNOLEDGE OF ARABIC LANGAUGE AND KNOLEDGE SUPRESSING PALASTINIANS;AMERICANS ARE VERY THANKFUL TO ISRAEL;AS ALL IRAKISARE BECOMMING THE VICTIMS SIMILAR TO PALASTINIANS ATTROSTIES UNDER ISRAELS SO AMERICAN ARE LEARNING NEW ISRAELI MASSACRE TRICKS;I FEE L VERY SORY FOR THE DEATH OF SO MANY IRAKIS AND NOW IMAM AL HAKIM AND SOMANY BELIEVERS COMMING OUT OF MOSQE ;ITS SAD ; I THINK IT WILL BE NOT THE LAST ONE: SO ALL IRAKIS SHOULD STAY UNITED UNDER PRESENT SITUATION;
AND NEVER TO TRUST THE INFORMATION AND NEWS OR INVESTIGATION
AGAINST TERROR AGAINST IRAKIS;BY AMERICANS AND BLAMING IRAKIS AND PERSUADIONG IRAKIS TO ACCEPT AMMERICAN INVESTIGATION BASED ON THIER LIES ; AND LIED THAT MADE THEM TO INVADE IRAK;AMERICANS WILL STAY IN IRAK TO CONTINUE THIER MASSACRES & ATTROSTIES AS IN PROCESS OF ACCUPYING IRAK TO ROBS THEM OF THIER RICHES; AMERICAN CONTINUE TO DO CRIMES ;AND LATTER INVESTIGATE AND BLAME ONE TIME ON SADAM ;OTHER TIMES ON SHIA CLERGI; ;AND SOME TIME ON SUNIS;
IMAGIN A MURDER KILLES AD ROBS AND THEN ACT LIKE A POLICE MAN ;BLAMING THE VICTIMS; BUT NEVER BLAMING HIMSELF; AMERICAN NEVER BLAME THEM SELVES BUT VICTIMS ; SO IRAKIS STAY TALL DETERMINED TO FREE YOUR SELF FROM THE TYRANY OF USA BEFORE YOU GET ALL KILLED BY ACCUPIER ;THERE ARE MANY ISRAELI COUNTERS TERRORISTS TO DISTROY IRAK SO TRUST ISLAM NOT AMERICACA;IF AMERICANS WERE ABLE TO DO HONEST INVESTIGATION OF BOMBING MOSQUE AT NAJAF OR AT UNO OFFICE;THAN AMERICACA SHOULD NOT BE IN IRAK TO ACCUPY IRAKIS ;ITS LIKE PYRATE ROBING AND INVESTIGATING AS POLICEMAN ;WILL NEVER BLAME HIMSELF:
WORLD IS WATCHING ;AND MORALY MAJORIY IS ON IRAKI SIDE ;AND UNDERSTANDING IRAKIS HAVE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEM SELVES TO BE FREE FROM YANKKE LOOTERS AND ROBERS WHO SAY THE WANT TO BUILD IRAK; IRAK DONT WANT TO BE BUILD; THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM SELVES; AND FIGHR AGAINST ACCUPATION:
ALL THE TIME WE HEAR FROM PRESIDENT BUSH THAT TERRORISTS IN IRAK HAVE NO RESPECT OF LIFE WHO KILL AMERICAN OR IRAKIS(ACTUALY KILLED BY KILLED BY AMERICANS )BUT BUSH OR AMERICAN MEDIA NEVER MENTIONS HOW MUCH AMERICAN ARMY HAS VALUE AND RESPECT OF IRAKIS LIVES WHEN THEY BOMB WITH PATCHIES WHOLE IRAKI VILLAGES AND WHILE BREAKING IRAKI HOMES WHILE MAKING HOUSES TO HOUSE SEARCH, AND KILLING WHOLE FAMILIES AFTER TERRORISING THEM,AS IT IS NEVER LOGICAL THAT AMERICAN HAVE RIGHT TO COMMIT ALL CRIME THEY ARE COMMITING JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN, BEING A SUPER POWER,HAVING NO GUILT, AND BLAMING THIER SINS ON THE VICTIM IRAKIS, ACCUPIES ARE ALWAYS RIGHT, WHY AMERICAN DONT CALL FOR A REFRENDON IN IRAK, IF IRAKIS ANY WAYS WANT TO BE ACCUPIED BY AMERICANS, , THES RESULT , THAT WOULD CIRTAINLY BE 99.999 PERCENT WISH AMERICAN GO TO HELL ,TO GET OUT OF IRAK, OUR PRIDE IRROGANCE OF NO GOOD REASON IS KEEPING US AMERICANS BLIND, TO DIE CONTINUESLY AS WE DONT WANT TO FACE THE FACTS, THAT WE CONTINUE KEEP KILLING & HATING AMERICAN,JUST BECAUSE WE AMERICAN BELIVE IN POWER OF GUN, NOT JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS, SIMILAR TO BULLYING EVERY WHERE WE WANT,
WE AMERICAN AREADY START COLLECTING DONATION FOR BUILDING ANOTHER IRAK WAR MEMOREAL, BECAUSE MILLION LOST DUM AMERICANS WANT TO DIE FOR PRESIDENT BUSHS MADNESS ,PLUS WHOLE WORLD ENJOING SECRETLY WOSHING AND PRAYING MORE AMERICAN TO DIE WHO GO MILLIONS MILES TO KILL PEOPLE WHO DID NO BAD TO AMERICA,AMERICAN ARE CHEAP, HAVE FUN FOR KILLING,HOMOCIDE PRISONERS FREED IN BATTLE GROUNG IN IRAK,WITH CHEAPEST SALLARIES IN WESTERN INDUSTRIAL NATION(3.50 DOLLERS PER HOUR), MOST OF RECRUTES ARE EITHER FANATIC CHRISTIANS OR COME FROM BROKEN FAMILIES,AND SO SUECIDAL TO KILL AS MANY THEY CAN BLOW THEMSELVES,THESE POOR LVEVES NO DEFFERENT THAN TALIBAN FIGHTERS, WHO SEE PRESIDENT GETS ORDERS FROM GOD SIMILAR TO LORD BIN LADIN, WHO DOESNT GO OTHER COUNTRIES TO INVADE WITH BIG ARMIES OFFENSIVELY,AS ARROGANT BUSH, MAY BE THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER COLD WAR ERA, WITH AL KAIDA. OR WITH BINLADIN, BECAUSE WORLD WAS SAFER IN COLD WAR ERA WITH SOVIET UNION, OR AMERICA GO INSANE AND PUSHES THE WORLD ALONG WITH IT,
WHY THERE IS NO DEBATE OR VOTING IN UNITED NATION WETHER AMERICA SHOULD BE A POLICE MAN OF THE WORLD, WITH ALL THE CRIME HISTORY, AND GULAGE AT GONTANOMO AND ATTROCITIES AL ABU GARIB PRISON, AND LOOTING OF IRAKI WELTH AND KILLING OF INNOCENT IRAKIS, AND SECRET EXICUTION OF INTERNATIONAL REDCROSS BECAUSE THEY WERE ROCK IN THE WAY OF BUSH,LATTER BLAMED ON IRAKIS AND MILLION IRAKI KILLED BY AMERICANS,
AMERICA WANT WORLD TO BE BLIND AND MINDLESS, SO THAT AMERICAN CAN SAY TO THE WORLD ,IT IS NOT AMERICAN WHO INVADED IRAK, BUT IT IS IRAKIS WHO INVADE IRAK, AND BOMBED INTERNAL REDCROSS, NOT AMERICAN, SO MANY ANTI AMERICAN CORRESPONDENTS WERE KILLED BY AMERICANS ARMY, AND WORLD KEPT QUIET, BECAUSE ACCUPIER WAS MAKING PLAN OF NEWS THROUGH CNN , A NAZI NETWORK LIKE CNN WOULD HAVE SERVED HITLER SO WELL,WOULD HAVE BLAMED EVERITHING ON JEWS, AND OTHER VITIMS SIMILAR TO BUSHS AMERICA AND LIES THROUGH PENTAGO AND CNN,ALL THE NEWS TEAM OF CNN, WOULD HAVE GREAT JOB FOR HITLER, AND GOBELS, FOR THIER FAME AND GOOD SALLARIES, AND WITH THIER ARROGANT APPEARANCES.
American Army recrutes Desperate and gulable ,without any direction are being injected with crazy & venomous patriotism in desparaty, to fool to join army ,trained to hate people arround the world, to kill masses in projected enemies territory,and get killed themselvesin vain for Bush`s madness.this madness to die for mad President who has so much blood on his hand ever since he was governor of Texas.his brutalty well known,how poor upbringng these gulable soldiers may have gone through ,and sure with no good education or proffession, for these machos and hopeless masses American army seems only the way out ,and sucidal before they kill many just because of hate injected in them.
Many wonder if the Army guys do have logic or any wisidom ,that they could be so manuplated ,&fooled to kill innocent masses, and get killed, for what ,cant think life is precious for all,and only reason to die or kill, just because President tumbled as mad man of recent history.Just like Hitler so many Germans died just because they were injected hate against others and Jews,killing them all, too late the were fooled by Hitlers propaganda,realising so many germans lost thier lives and so many they killed, Just like American Bush who is as Crasy as Hitler who who has poisoned innocent American Ears &brains against rest of world who cant defend them selves, and no mach for American war industry.Loosing war or winnining war should not let us to judge the country,but by vertue ad courage to stant against strong & tirant superpower who posseses all kind of weapons,has control on mass media ,who can turn lies as half baseless realty,put thier sins on others. As humans we get easily dragged on the side of stronger,brutal,who wins by any means, not who looses.or is innocent ,unready or un organised.but to judge the victim is not fair..If Hitler would have won the war ,does not mean he was right, all what he did,.Just like HITLERat the the times ecconomic stagnation,American president to drugg people with war, ,does not mean he is right to go to war bassed on lies,to invade irak,conquer thier cheap oil ,to punder a smaller country,to accupy them to make Americans more hated.Forces in Accupied Irak, that are killing American Soldiers is Not Sadam, but all Irakis who dont want to be accupied by foriegners,While American Bushes Lies say that Irakis love Americans, is basless.American have capacity to belive too many lies to die for them needlessly.If America was accupied America will do same to defend their country ,and will sure not love he accupier as Bush makes to fool Americans.Bush often pretends that American love Irakis to build Irak ,this talk is cheap for American war consumption ,but Irakis Hate America for plundering thier country and to accupying to torture who defend Iraki resistance ,who have been let down by American brutal policies to leash on American accupying solders who are sold to Bushes Madness & dieing unamerican values . who bring the shame the very principles that gave birth to America by policy of justice by American founding fathers to free of British tirany in before the American war of independence against British.
American with wisidom need to win the hearts of masses arround rhe world,and it will not happen by pirate America policeing the world or bombing and robing the world or by being bias to support countries that accupy to massaccre the victime in accupation.similar to jews under Nazis or Palastinans under Israel accupation, or now attricities by Americans against Irakis who defend them selves,as America is Seeding the future hate Against America by bombing as cowards against victims of war torn nation who suffer so long against American sanctions, and American support of Sadam the dictator only 20 yrs ago when American helped sadam to go to war against Iran , and supporting the gassing the Kurds,when American pointed no fingers at friend Sadam the good friend who faught Dirty American wars,Similar to secret wars &bombings in Vietnam,and nw similar secret mission of bombing in Irak.And any middle Eastern country that opposes American Dirty war in Irak, will be punished, devestated by spyral of secret mission of bombing as terrorists as proxy ,And who is benifiting from these dirty mission of bombing in the of terrorists ,as proxy bombing to confuse the world,and same time punish the countries who opposed the war,based on lies,that lies continue till today, in every aspect of American version of war prapaganda much worse than Nazi,
America must be Judged by its past secret missions,secret bombing to intiate the wars,to support brutal dictators as long they were use full ,to dispose them latter, when they are not needed any more, to replace them with new fresh dictator to manuplate the masses further..Fathers of American founding fathers will be ashamed by the recent American Brutal & unfair policies.
ALL HUMANBEINGS REACT SIMILAR WHEN ATTACKED,OR INSULTED BY A CRIMINAL POWER WEATHER A SUPER POWER(TERRORIST WITH ADVANCES WEAPONS) OR A VICTIM(weapon of cry, or. stone or bodybomb).SO BIGGER THE NATION MILITARILY HAS RIGHT TO IMPOSE ON THE WORLD BY MEANS OF CNN OR PATCHES, IT HAS SELF RIGHT TO ATTACK THE OTHER SMALL UNLIKED COUNTRIES, TO DICKTATE ITS WILL,AND RIGHT OF SELF GLORIFYING TO DICTATING ITS WILL AND TERRORISE THE SMALL COUNTRIES,AND HOPE FOR THE FANTACY SUCESS TOO QUICK, NOT REALIZING THAT ALL LIVING THINGS REACT TO HATE AGAING HATE, IN NATURE, IT IS UNWISE TO EXPECT THAT VICTIMIZED MASSES WILL GIVE US RED CARPET TREATMENT, REGARDS LESS HOW MUCH PAIN CAUSED ON THEM, BY SELF GLORIFIED POWERS IN BLINDNESS OF RIGHT OF DOING WRONGS BECAUSE THEY CAN, AND UNWISE HOPING THAT VICTIMS WILL BE THIER FRIENDS, THAT QUICK. WE MUST REMMEMBER WHAT YOU DO UNTO OTHERS, WILL BE DONE UNTO YOU,IT IS EASY TO CRITICISE OTHERS IN GLAMOUR OF POWER THAT WE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT, AND OUR VICTIMS ARE WRONG,TERRORISTS, AND DICTATORS, TYRANTS(MANY TIMES SUPPORTED BY SUPERPOWERS WHEN THEY ARE USEFULL).
AS WE SUPERPOWERS KEEP ON CRITICIZIN THE OUR ADVARSARIES SMALL UNWANTED STATES, AND NEVER CRITICISE OUR FAULTS, BUT GOLORIFING OUR FAULTY DECUSIONS THAT LEAD US TO WAR FOR JUSTIFING LIES TO KILL MILLIONS AND GETTING KILLED, MAKING EVEN CITIES UNSAFER, THOU FAR AWAY FROM BATTLE GROUND.WE ONLY MAKE WORLD MORE DANGEROUS FOR ALL, TILL THE TIME COME I HOPE THAT WE GET HUMANE TO RAISE THE EYBROWS TO POINT FINGER TO OURSELVES, RATHER THAN TO OUR ADVARSARIES OR VICTIMS THAT WE DONT LIKE, AND MAKE THEM NOT LIKE US,WE ACT THINKING WE ARE GODS ACT AS SELF GLORIFYING RIGHTIOUS TO BLAME EVERYONE BUT OURSELVES. BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO RED CARPET TREATMENT FOR THE AGGRESSORS WHO GLORIFY THEM SELVES SIMMILAR TO TERRORISTS , VICTIMS,OR HOLOCUSTED MASSES, WHAT WOULD MIGHTY HITLER EXPECT FROM THE JEWS HE GASSED, AS TERRORISTS,SHOULD OPEN OUR EYSE TO WISIDOM THAT MILITARY POWER, HAS NO LEGITIMACY, NO NEED TO SELF GLORIFING OURSELVE WHEN WE ARE BLINDED BY MERE POWER, TO DISTROY THE WORLD AND OURSELVES,WE MUST LEARN BEFORE WE ALL MAKE OURSELVES DEVESTATED AND WORLD AM DANGEROUS PLACE,
The Golden Rule in Israel, Iraq, London & D.C.
Thursday, 28 July 2005, 12:27 pm
Opinion: Genevieve Cora Fraser
The Golden Rule in Israel, Iraq, London & Washington
By Genevieve Cora Fraser
Darker skinned people beware
Israeli Offensive Forces spray
Bullets into crowds of women
Children and the elderly
In Rafah in Gaza
In Iraq
US-UK Coalition Troops
Lay waste
Plunder and destroy
An ancient civilization
To build The New World
Disorder
The die
Is cast an evil eye
Penetrates as the dust settles
On the still life
Of death following a rocket
Attack pay back is a bitch
Bombs burst in subways
Marketplaces busses to attack
Or hold back is the question
Bursting within the brains
Of some among us
In Iraq, in Afghanistan
South America
Wherever it wants
The Free World
Foments upheaval
To exploit
Labor
Steal resources
Assailed on all sides by white
Supremacists holding the cross
Of salvation
As a battering ram
To break down
The fabric of life
Plough fields of despair
Landmines of opportunity
Await those who are not us
The great adventure into the unknown
Abyss when those who
Would be king rule over
All who are beneath their contempt
Lost in fantasies of White
Makes Right cloaked in the garb
Of the righteous
Jews, Christians, heathens all
Assign blame
Unable to cast the speck
Out of thine own eye
Ye Hypocrites
Chase down the illegal
Alien desperate for work
Your governments
Acting on behalf of
Your corporations
Rape and rob
Their economies
Steal their lands, their rights
Leave them destitute
Chase them down like animals
Pursue a policy of lethal
Injection of bullets
Administered
Directly
Into the skulls
Of those you fear
Blowback has caught you
Unprepared to have others
Do unto you
As you have
Done unto them
ENDS